Yellow Breeches

There is a lot of ambiguity and conflicting statements in those FAQ's and many make NO sense at all like how do you access the stream without accessing if FROM their property?

I guess that means you CAN'T step OUT of the creek if you don't have a permit and isn't the bottom of the stream their property too?? IF I am correct about the getting out of the stream thing, does mean a NON permit angler will have to wade in front of a permit holding angler??

They also STILL mention requiring membership in the Yellow Breeches Anglers (YBA) which could have NOTHING to do with YBA. But doesn't that make access even more restrictive?
Yak it or float it in a tube just to annoy the owners as the fishing is fair to poor most days anyhoo
 

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Under that same "Frequently Asked Questions" section, Allenberry says the permit system applies to only anglers accessing the creek from the Allenberry property. So, in theory, one could park up at Children's Lake, cross the stream, follow the path all the way down to the Allenberry property, and fish it? View attachment 1641250166
No, Allenberry owns the property from the stonebridge on both sides all the way down to the resort. Your would be tresspassing.
 
Do they own the parking lot by the forge that holds the run out of the lake? I was under the impression that portion was township owned, but I may be mistaken completely.
 
Do they own the parking lot by the forge that holds the run out of the lake? I was under the impression that portion was township owned, but I may be mistaken completely.
That is owned by South Middleton Township according to Cumberland County's Property Mapper
 
Do they own the parking lot by the forge that holds the run out of the lake? I was under the impression that portion was township owned, but I may be mistaken completely.

The forge parking area IS township owned and so is a short length of property on the Run side of the Yellow Breeches from the Mountain Road Bridge downstream.

Allenberry does NOT own both sides of the creek all the way down from that bridge...

They own ALMOST all of it... 😉
 
Just need a sliver to launch a kayak, holding a spinning rod and bait,

Wonder which guide(s) will sign up to become persona non grata in the local fly fishing community.
 
Just need a sliver to launch a kayak, holding a spinning rod and bait,

Wonder which guide(s) will sign up to become persona non grata in the local fly fishing community.
“Bombs away!”(ignore the fly pole in photo 2 😎)
 

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I almost want to drive down tomorrow with a chair, a case of beer and some cigars; sit by the RR tracks with binoculars and watch the show...

OT for the locals:

What's going on with the restaurant that was SUPPOSED to open in the barn/apartments building adjacent to the Run??

And are the Rickert's REALLY going to reopen the Tavern WITH lodging like I heard??
 
The Rickert's have been opening the Deer Lodge, the Tavern and several other restaurants for years, don't hold your breath for any opening anytime soon!
 
The rebuild on the restaurant by the run seemed like it was moving ahead, but not sure anymore. Not seeing much activity. Could be trying to get a liquor license, permitting or something else.
 
The Rickert's have been opening the Deer Lodge, the Tavern and several other restaurants for years, don't hold your breath for any opening anytime soon!

I'm not a fan when they ran the Tavern so I was just wondering...

The rebuild on the restaurant by the run seemed like it was moving ahead, but not sure anymore. Not seeing much activity. Could be trying to get a liquor license, permitting or something else.

Too bad because I thought it the folks from One13 Social & Pitt Street Station were behind the project so I had hopes for SOMETHING other than Allenberry in the village.
 
That doesn't seem to be on the site at the hyperlink you listed at this moment. Maybe they dropped after further thought.

Hmmm... That's an interesting new development from this morning..

BOO!!

(Just in case the Allenberry folks are lurking on on PAFF) 😉
 
Hmmm... That's an interesting new development from this morning..

BOO!!

(Just in case the Allenberry folks are lurking on on PAFF) 😉
I just checked; this thread pops up as the first result for a Google search of "Allenberry fishing." And that was on my woman's phone, and she never visits PAFF. It was first on my phone too, though.
 
Saw a couple people say they couldn't find the part on the Allenberry website in question. It is under the "Frequently Asked questions" portion of the "Fly-Fishing" tab. You have to scroll a ways down there on your PC or phone to find it. Here is the hyperlink: https://allenberry.com/fly-fishing/View attachment 1641250165
Again, it's not there now. The only the last three (non-highlighted) questions remain under Conservation & Stewardship.
 
Allenberry sounds like a disaster. If this reflects their management then it sounds like a terrible operation and likely will fail.
 
Dear Board,

This entire thread needs to be forwarded to Orvis Corporate HQ.

They need to know with whom they have chosen to sleep with.

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂

Tim I listen to Orvis fly fishing podcast with Tom Rosenbauer and to be honest Allenberry or what they are trying to become sounds exactly like the lodges and outfitters they promote on the show. I do own a battenkill reel and a Clearwater rod and a few other trinkets but I can’t afford most of the product line orvis has to offer. The clientele that Orvis is targeting are the exact type of people that would pay for a lodge experience and guided private access to water. There is nothing wrong with that if you can afford it and that’s what you like. What makes it a tough pill to swallow is change and traditions. I don’t know what to say about it. I have never fished it and had no interest because I despise regulated water but I mourn the loss for others.
 
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