Recent Rain

Getting pummeled in Lancaster county. I bet you will see some 5-6 inch totals with 1-2 tomorrow.
Out with the old (silt), in with the new, and mobilizing phosphates and nitrates sorbed to sediments.
 
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Destroyed is an understatement. The boys were out running from water rescue to water rescue (cars in high water) for hours. Hoping we don't have a repeat today, or it least a different area sees the rain!

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A few years ago I installed 6" gutters/downspouts on my house with the expectation that they would handle these pumped up rainfall rates without overflowing. I have a hip roof with a low slope, and these rainfall rates just totally overwhelm the capacity for them to drain. They overflow, and there is not much I can do about it. 2"/hour rates or higher are the new norm.
 
I was hoping to get out fishing the past 2 weeks. Water Temps were good and flows falling. Last weeks rain and the rain yesterday changed all that. No fishing this week. I am going on vacation next week returning on 7/13. I put all my gear away today and am most likely done trout fishing till fall.
I will hit Susquehanna for catties, carp and small mouth later in the month.

Been a hell of a year
 
I've heard the "100 year" description used too many times in the last decade to put any stock in it.
I don't think this storm quite got to that level based on the stream gages I checked, so I was wrong to call it that, but your point stands. I studied one storm a few years ago at my previous job where when we plotted the recorded rain vs duration on a chart that included storms up to "1,000-year", it was literally off the chart. 4+" in 25 minutes if I remember correctly.
 
It's not been a good year to fly fish for sure.

OTOH....the silver lining is I still have most of my winter ties!
 
Localized 6-7" amounts with still another round to go. Widespread 4"+. Stay safe out there! This is 100-year flood type of rain amounts.

For the Conestoga River at Lancaster the 100 year flood elevation is 26.1 ft.

The highest level recorded was 27.9 ft during Hurricane Agnes. (I saw the Conestoga then.)

The recent peak from this storm was 12.1 ft. So it peaked at an elevation less than half the 100 year flood elevation.
 
The issue with alot of these storms ia that they are very localized and as troutbert indicated they may not result in significant floodong on larger stream gauges. Regardless, when 4-6 in of rain falls in several hours there is significant flooding somewhere. That amount of rain in short time periods in higher gradient watersheds almost always results in fairly significant damage.
 
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This is true, but not this year.
Dear wildtrout2,

I second that emotion. I bought an inflatable kayak for myself as an early Christmas present. A couple of months ago I bought a motor for it. I had high hopes for hitting the Susquehanna and Juniata with them, but neither has been fully unboxed. The kayak holds air, and motor is charged and ready to go, but that's the extent of it.

I will get them in the water in the next day or two, but it won't be on a river. Both of the local rivers are too high and too muddy to bother with in a kayak. Maybe by July 15th or so the Susquehanna will be below 4 ft and not turd brown.

A boy can hope! 😉

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
15.02" of rain registered at my personal weather station since May 1, 2025.

I'm flushing toilets with reckless abandon... 🚽
Just wondering, having only ever had a public sewage service line, but having reviewed general septic system and sand mound designs, under these wet circumstances do you have to concern yourself about toilet water having a place to go in your drain field? I assume your comment was really about having a full well/worry-free water supply at the moment. I have had a well to think about and understand the relief of a high water table following a drought.
 
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2004,2011,2018 all wet years in Pennsylvania. Will 2025 finish as another year with above average precipitation ? If so it would be quite a coincidence in those years fall every 7 years.
I cannot remember for sure but I think it was either 1996 or 1997 that I shot at Camp Perry with 3” of water on my matt and rain blowing sideways.
 
2004,2011,2018 all wet years in Pennsylvania. Will 2025 finish as another year with above average precipitation ? If so it would be quite a coincidence in those years fall every 7 years.
I recently bought a book on The Allegheny River by Mike Sajna, after reading about him and his books on here a couple weeks ago, and I just finished reading about the 1956 flood in the Allegheny that flooded much of Warren, PA (the 2nd worst flood ever recorded there) that ultimately resulted in the Corps of Engineers building the Kinzua Dam several years later.

That 1956 flood, which was in March, doesn’t exactly coincide with wet years every 7 years, considering 2004, 2011, and 2108. (1955 would have been the 7 year interval.) However, there was an unusually large, heavy snowpack in that area at the end of 1955, followed by a warmer than usual spring with heavy rainfall in March 1956 which caused the flood, according to local news reports.

I got the urge to visit that area after reading that book, so my wife and I made a road trip there this past Sunday and Monday. We drove up to the Kinzua dam breast on both sides of the river, and I talked to 2 guys who were fishing there with their families, without much luck.

Seeing that you’re from Wilcox, you might be interested that my great grandparents originally lived in Johnsonburg. Not exactly a 7 mile interval from Wilcox, but pretty close. 😃
 
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