New Posting on Codorus creek

[afishinado]

^ Fixed that for you.....

Biologist surveys have not been shared online from the PFBC site for quite a few years now. Check out how many recent surveys are listed for Management Area 6 below or pick any Management area.

Biologist Reports Area 6

www.fishandboat.com

Almost none added in the last 3 or 4 years in Area 6. The Commish has to do a lot better sharing info with the angling public since they fund these surveys in the first place and deserve to be able to access this info.

😉

It's a pain in the butt, but I call and ask. The folks in fisheries management seem to be generally enthused that someone is interested in their work and have always been very forthcoming to me with a lot more information than is in those reports.

I've also been told by those same biologists that a lot of small surveys are done and were never published, but I don't know is that's a recent development or was always the case.

Obviously if Mike chimes in we'll know for sure.

The FBC used to post many of their surveys. Here is an example from the list I posted > Susquehanna River YOY surveys: 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 > and none published in the last 4 years even though surveys were completed. This is just an example. Look at the multiple surveys published in years past and no new entries the past 4 years or so. Again, this is true of all Management areas not just Area 6 (which I am most familiar). I'm sure it's because of a lack of personnel. But as I stated above, having to field inquires from each angler with a question individually is a lot more labor intensive than publishing the info online. Plus having the info online builds awareness about our fish and waterways by raising a red flag or raising the flag of victory.

 

[lycoflyfisher]

As an fyi there is a good bit of info published for each quarterly commission meeting in the appendices associated with the listing of wild trout streams and class a streams. The recent fisheries committee meeting also had a lot of interesting data presented on the group of class a streams that are stocked.

The agency certainly could do a better job of publishing survey data.

 

[Mike]

The recent fisheries committee meeting also had a lot of interesting data presented on the group of class a streams that are stocked.

Where did you find that? I looked pretty hard on the PFBC web site and only found agendas and recordings of the full Commission meetings, not the Committee meetings.

 

[Hilltop]

The FBC used to post many of their surveys. Here is an example from the list I posted > Susquehanna River YOY surveys: 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 > and none published in the last 4 years even though surveys were completed. This is just an example. Look at the multiple surveys published in years past and no new entries the past 4 years or so. Again, this is true of all Management areas not just Area 6 (which I am most familiar). I'm sure it's because of a lack of personnel. But as I stated above, having to field inquires from each angler with a question individually is a lot more labor intensive than publishing the info online. Plus having the info online builds awareness about our fish and waterways by raising a red flag or raising the flag of victory.

If you check the biologist reports Area 6 actually has 5 reports from 2021. However Area 3 has none from 2019-2021? Don't understand that. On the whole I agree with you though, it seems like for every area there should be more. Maybe upper management isn't requiring area manager's to do it anymore or making it a priority. I enjoy reading the reports, seeing the methods used, results and looking at the pictures, but maybe the Commission determined most people don't so they don't put the effort into it.

 

[lycoflyfisher]

Where did you find that? I looked pretty hard on the PFBC web site and only found agendas and recordings of the full Commission meetings, not the Committee meetings.

The meeting was shown on facebook live. I believe a recorded version is still available on facebook and should be available soon on youtube if its not already. I am sure with your connections you could get a copy of the presentation haha.

 

[Rockfish]

😉

It's a pain in the butt, but I call and ask. The folks in fisheries management seem to be generally enthused that someone is interested in their work and have always been very forthcoming to me with a lot more information than is in those reports.

I've also been told by those same biologists that a lot of small surveys are done and were never published, but I don't know is that's a recent development or was always the case.

Obviously if Mike chimes in we'll know for sure.

Cool. I just asked because in my conversation with them, I mentioned Id be interested in their findings, and was told they’d prob be published sometime after the new year. Thanks for the suggestions on making contact. I’m Curious to say what they have to say

 

[Rockfish]

The posted signs are put up for hunting seasons. However, please take care of where you walk and don’t litter. The farmer above Kraft Mill Rd. (railroad tracks) where the wire is in place put it there because of people not following rules on where to park and walking through his property.

More than that, I’ve been given to understand someone decided to harass the landowners kid.

 

[wildtrout2]

More than that, I’ve been given to understand someone decided to harass the landowners kid.

That'll ruin access every time.

 

[keirns4]

Just wanted to clarify a couple of things...

None of the current postings on the Codorus are related to hunting. The two postings in Rockfish's original post weren't caused by fishermen either - they resulted from the theft of personal property from the landowners. The posting at the upper end of the 'ditch' (as Rockfish described, aka 'the tank') just prohibits parking there - you can still fish the property. The posting on the upper section, above the cable, was triggered by a senseless idiot who actually harassed the landowners small children - so fully justified. Everyone fishing that creek really needs to step up their behavior game - most do, but a select few are close to really screwing things up. And don't forget that the stream has NZ mudsnails now - be sure to clean and dry your gear thoroughly. PM me with any concerns - there's a good chance I can get you some accurate info.

I talked to the landowners 2 years ago that are above the cable. They did say that due to a couple of idiots harassing them, trashing things up, is the reason it's posted.

 

[barrybarry]

Resident goose season opens on September 1st. Do not under any circumstances fish that section of the Codorus on that day. There are more than a few blinds in the standing corn.
I made that mistake once. I kept hearing people talking in the corn...Hmmm.
A flight of Canada's flew by following the creek bottom. I felt like a buck on opening day.