lycoflyfisher
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You are in one of the more unique parts of the state regarding personalities surrounding land ownership, between very large exlusive hunting and fishing clubs and vacation properties owned by city folk the general pocono region is not one Id recommend wandering around on private property unless you have permission or it is clearly open to public fishing. There is a fair bit of water on public land there to keep you busy.Small world! Bibury is a lovely little town, and the trout farm there is one of the oldest in England, I believe. My favourite spot on the Coln is actually Fairford, just a few miles downstream near RAF Fairford. The Bull Hotel there is a historic coaching inn that’s been a destination for trout anglers since at least the 1800s.
They offer about 1¼ miles of fishing on the coln starting in farmland and ending at the medieval towns center. for around £45 for a half day or £60 for a full day, which is one of the best prices you’ll find for chalk stream fishing in southern England. (I know those prices might sound insane to Americans, but I’ve seen day tickets on some of the historic beats of the Test and Itchen go for up to £500 for a single person during prime mayfly season!)
If it wasn’t obvious already, England has centuries of history tied up in land ownership, class and sporting traditions, and unfortunately a lot of these old pastimes have ended up becoming rich men’s games. Fly fishing is probably one of the best examples of this, particularly on the famous chalk streams.
Anyway, the Coln at Fairford is some of the most picturesque water I’ve ever fished. I wouldn’t necessarily recommend travelling to England specifically for fly fishing (go to Scotland instead!) but if you’re ever in London or the south of England for business or pleasure, Fairford is well worth the trip. The town itself is a beautiful example of a traditional Cotswold town, and the Bull is a great place to stay for a few nights, or just come for a meal and a day’s fishing!
The Cumberland Valley limestoners are definitely on my list too. I’ve read quite a bit about their history and watched plenty of videos on them, especially as they seem to be the closest thing here to the waters I’m familiar with. There’s so much trout water in PA compared to England that I feel like I don’t have enough time in my life to explore everything within an hour of Monroe County, let alone get out to Cumberland Valley! I’m definitely spoiled for choice here.
Thanks for the map suggestions as well. One thing that’s confused me quite a bit is how public access and posted land work here. In England, you generally need explicit permission or a day ticket to fish anywhere, regardless of whether there’s a sign. So when I’d read people on here talking about streams becoming posted by landowners, I was confused about how people had been fishing them without permission in the first place.
I’ve been reading up on PA’s navigable water laws and think I’m finally beginning to understand how they work, although I’m still a bit confused about accessing private land that isn’t posted. With hunting season underway and stories I’ve heard from friends in the Poconos about confrontations with landowners, I’m pretty hesitant to wander onto someone’s property simply because there aren’t any posted signs.
For all the problems with England’s restrictive access laws, one thing I did appreciate was knowing exactly where I was and wasn’t allowed to fish. I much prefer the opportunities for public access here, but I’m still getting used to how everything works. If you or anyone else has advice on how anglers generally approach access to unposted land here, I’d appreciate it.
Thanks again for all the advice. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.
Perhaps someone here that is local to that region would be willing to meet up and fish with you a day. Sounds like you have basic flyfishing skills down, just not used to the different holding waterand feeding lies of our higher gradient streams vs UK chalk streams.
Perhaps making a trip out to central pa to try Spring Creek would be worthwhile. You may find some stretches that have similarities to UK, but generally it is limestone influenced water in a higher gradient setting with larger substrate than most limestone systems.