Javelin389t
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I guess I should call it casting practice more so than fishing. I was mainly at the shore for R/R. Never planned on fishing much. I did not get up super early and the beach crowd came early where I was.
Saltwater flounder.
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Thank you. I will definitely put your advice to use. I haven’t really done much research in this category. I agree about the beach replenishment. However I believe this is a once every 20 years type project. Although I do enjoy going to the shore towns. I guess a much smarter solution would have been to leave all the barrier islands in there natural state.
OK troutbert,
You shouldn’t have asked😉. The Hogchoker, a member of the Sole family, is abundant in the Pennsylvania portion of the Delaware Estuary (DelCo, Phila, lower Bucks Co’s) and tribs both in the segment that in low flow gets slightly saline, at least in the centrally located shipping channel, and in the much longer segment that is purely fresh water. It is not in the flounder family but shares the same Order. Look up their pic; they’re a neat fish for Pa and, as I said, abundant. Even more closely related is the Smallmouth Flounder. We netted one of those in the channel behind Tinicum Island, which geographically speaking is near the southern end of the Phila Airport. The water was fresh, not saline, so although it is recognized as a marine species, it can cross into fresh water.
Thanks for the update. The flounder fishing has not been on fire this year. I agree a 10lb leader is horribly inadequate. I start with 30 lb butt on my 5wt. A 40 lb butt section would be a better starting point for a 9 wt on the beach but i probably would have had a 50 lb butt stepped down to a 25 lb tippet. Flounder are not leader shy.
wildtrout2
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Soooo true!
Not only that, but he said they buried the Jetties. That’s not just a loss of fish, mussel, crab, and other invertebrate habitat, but the replenishment also buries sand fleas (mole crab colonies) on and extending out from the former beach line. Add to that…the purpose of the jetties is to intercept the “river of sand” that flows north to south along the Atlantic seaboard and deposit it on the downstream side of the jetties in order to preserve some of the beach. Place enough jetties close enough together and beaches can potentially hold their own for a distance that’s just shy of the jetty length. At least that’s the idea behind them.
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wildtrout2
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Doing the same thing the same way multiple times and expecting different results. 😆
Actually everybody knows the outcome is temporary. Nobody is expecting different results or miracles and they fully understand it will have to be repeated. It’s done for the protection of property, infrastructure and tourism. If it wasn’t done everybody would be complaining that nothing was done to prevent the inevitable destruction that would follow inaction.
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See post #46...
TimMurphy
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Dear poopdeck,
Actually, many people are tired of spending tax dollars on private property that never should have been developed in the first place. Barrier islands are a natural feature, subject to constant change, and not supposed to be infested with second homes, boardwalks, and cheap souvenir shops. Travel to the Florida Panhandle if you want to see barrier islands that haven't been ruined or stay closer to home and visit Assateague.
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Tim Murphy 🙂
tomgamber
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On the OBX they don't take it from the ocean. They take it from the sound pump it to the ocean side of the island. Since tourism is pretty much 100% of their economy, have beaches is worth it in their eyes. They've had success with it. We pave the same damn roads year after year after year, whats the difference?
I’m sure if that was a better option it would be done. Apparently it’s not the better option. I’m also positive that you are the least in the know about the available options.
Far more of our tax dollars are being spent for far dumber reasons. I could probably come up with an environmental reason why your house, my house, and wildtrout’s should not have been built as well.
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Dear poopdeck,
So, spending public money stupidly is entirely contingent on arbitrary reasons that you deem to be proper? Got it.
Beachfront property owners should have to self-insure. They own it, they need to be responsible for it. It shouldn't be publicly insured.
Gulf Islands National Seashore is the 6th most visited National Park in country, and it has no dwellings on the National Park property, save for a few Ranger Stations and public restrooms. I guess people can go to the beach and enjoy it without the commercialization.
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Tim Murphy 🙂
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Dear tomgamber,
Regarding the roads, maybe ask the highway contractors living off the public dole why they lobby so strenuously to never be held fully accountable for their mistakes, and overruns?
Regarding the OBX, how about a little AI argument to disprove your erroneous assertion?
Source of Sand for Buxton Beach Rebuilding
The sand used to rebuild Buxton’s beaches in 2026 was pumped from the ocean bottom offshore in the same area where the beach is being widened WTVR.com+1.Dare County crews used large dredges — including the Liberty Island and a second dredge arriving in mid-August — to extract millions of cubic yards of sediment from the seabed and transport it to the shoreline Dare County, NC. The project involved placing about 2 million cubic yards of offshore sand onto a 3‑mile stretch of eroded beach, from the Haulover Day Use Area south to just south of the Buxton Beach Access Dare County, NC.
This process is called beach nourishment, where sand is taken from a nearby offshore source with similar sediment characteristics and placed on the beach to widen it and create a protective buffer Island Free Press. The sand is not mined from land; it’s dredged from the ocean floor to match the natural grain size and composition of the existing beach, ensuring it will hold and blend in over time Island Free Press.
The goal is to create a wider, steeper beach and dune system that can help protect roads, homes, and infrastructure from storm surges and rising seas, even though the work must be repeated every few years as erosion continues
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Tim Murphy 🙂
tomgamber
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So you found one. The ongoing project that runs from kitty hawk to south nags head takes it from the sound.
So, spending public money stupidly is entirely contingent on arbitrary reasons that you deem to be proper
Yes, what rock you been living under?🤣
So, spending public money stupidly is entirely contingent on arbitrary reasons that you deem to be proper
Yes, what rock you been living under?🤣
wildtrout2
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I doubt that very much. My home of 65 years was built along the Main Line, it's almost 100 years old. It was built along with the others on my street to provide housing for Pennsylvania Railroad employees. Hence, the "Main Line".
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TimMurphy
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Dear Board,
For those of you who can actually read and understand what beach replenishment entails. here is a pictorial and verbal description of the process, from start to finish provided by the Town of Nags Head NC 2026. Please note that all pipes are ocean side. Imagine that! 😉
www.nagsheadnc.gov
Facts do matter!
Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
For those of you who can actually read and understand what beach replenishment entails. here is a pictorial and verbal description of the process, from start to finish provided by the Town of Nags Head NC 2026. Please note that all pipes are ocean side. Imagine that! 😉
Latest Beach Nourishment Update
Beach Nourishment Update, August 4, 2026Tilling of the beach is expected to begin tomorrow morning in the southernmost section of the project area near Mile Post 21 in the 10000 block of South Old Ore
www.nagsheadnc.gov
Facts do matter!
Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
sandflyx
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most flounder are caught within 40 feet of the beach when i fished them. they will lay right at the small drop off at you feet so make sure you work your fly along the wash. i always used the 3 section leader with a 20# tippet section. flounder have sharp teeth and will cut off lighter lines.
