Recent Rain

When one gets an extreme rainfall like 7" in a day impervious surface doesn't mean too much since no surface can absorb all that water. Where impervious surfaces really make a difference is in increasing the one to 2 year bank full floods. 2" to 3" rainfalls that might have been mostly absorbed in farmland can now cause flooding.
 
Mike said:
That seems rather surprising given the drainage area at the Sonestown gauge is 23.8 sq mi and because I thought (45 yrs ago) that much of the drainage above Sonestown was wooded or at least undeveloped. Was I wrong or has there been a change? (The survey also produced a number of wild browns and a wild tiger trout).
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Still mostly forested. Lots of roads channelize tribs and the main creek above sonestown effectively reducing floodplain connectivity. This area got 7in of rain in a short period of time. Flooding will always happen in that scenario and cabins/ homes and roads in the floodplain will get damaged.

In these extreme rain events we also see massive amounts of water coming straight off the mountain sides in places where water is not typically flowing. This is often where small landslides occur onto roadways.
 
I got out this evening before another downpour soaked south central PA. Past few times I’ve been out has just been very uneventful, but at least I’m getting out. If for just an hour…
 
Here is a post from the Nation Weather Service. Many in this thread thought we were headed for a 2018like summer precipitation wise. It has dried out very quick in much of central/ NCPA. Grass is browning, I am watering the garden regularly and flows have quickly dropped to avg summer lows or just below after months of flowing above avg.

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Yep, we are mighty dry here in Central PA again. It isn't terrible, and I have seen it much worse, but a good, all-day soaker would be appreciated at this point.
 
This thread is great.

I hope all you low water dry fly purists are happy! (I’m kidding.)

This thread illustrates the point pretty well about how flows work on most waters in PA. It’s about the last 14 days that count.

Ideally, “low” water in Spring is good, and “high” in Summer, relative to normal, is what makes for the best Trout fishing. The best Trout fishing I’ve had in my life were the Summers of 2018 and 2019 (both relatively cool and very wet). But then we have the WWI guys…I still haven’t Bass fished this Summer and kinda would like to at this point.

Short version, if you don’t like the flows now, wait about 14 days, they will likely be very different.
 
levels look good in most rivers. Once it warms up again, we’ll get August thunderstorms too. Trout don’t need flood conditions to survive
 
I wasn't even talking about needing rain from a fishing perspective. I couldn't care about that. The fish will be fine. I'm talking from a plant/garden perspective.
 
Around here, we went from too much rain thru most of the summer, to bone dry very recently
I'm just glad the high humidity levels have finally returned to normal.
After I cut my grass Saturday, I wasn't soaked from sweat for the first time in quite a while
 
Now we have smoke to deal with from the northwest flows.
 
Old thread but it looks like North Central Pennsylvania is in line for several days of possible snow over the next 2 weeks. Not sure if it’s a system or lake effect Snow. I hope there’s going to be some accumulation.
 
salmo said:
Old thread but it looks like North Central Pennsylvania is in line for several days of possible snow over the next 2 weeks. Not sure if it’s a system or lake effect Snow. I hope there’s going to be some accumulation.
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Dear Salmo,

There is almost 2 feet on the ground in Bradford PA but it's not exactly the center of NCPA.

November is fickle. In November 2024 early in the month, I got 7 inches of snow at my house north of Harrisburg. I was like, "Oh yeah, here it comes!" I ran my snowblower 2 more times all season and still had gas left over from that first run in early November once Spring came.

We shall see!

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
Wellsboro is expecting 2-3 inches of snow today. Hopefully more precipitation by the end of the year.
 
BTW: Nice photos on your links.
 
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