Posted, not posted... wait... huh?

[greenghost]

Fishing a new stream in the Laurel Highlands (Whites Creek near Mt Davis) this fall I found a stretch with these signs on it. Both signs looked recently posted. Confusing for sure but I fished it anyway. Does anybody know what's up with this bullshit?

 

[Swattie87]

I always assumed (correctly I think, but verify yourself as you see fit), that if the landowner put up the Posted sign after the Fishing Permitted sign was already there, the landowner would likely take down the fishing sign if they didn’t intend to allow fishing on the property. If the Posted sign was there first, clearly the PFBC negotiated fishing access at some point, and the landowner wishes to allow fishing, but not other activities, so the Posted sign remains.

Either way, I believe those are fair game, and don’t fish a ton of those spots, but know a few. Know your property boundaries and the posting status of any neighboring properties, as it may change property to property.

 

[tjsingle]

I've ran into that situation a few times. Usually a situation where they allow fishing but not hunting. My guess is if it was posted no fishing, that those fishing permitted signs wouldn't be present.

 

[RLeep2]

There are a lot of these dual sign situations in Crawford, Venango and Warren Counties. Sometimes, they mean specifically no hunting but fishing is permitted. Other times the intent seems to be to allow fishing along a relatively narrow corridor surrounding the stream and to discourage general wandering on the property in question. In no situation that I am aware of are any of these dual conflicting message sign meant to forbid entry to fish.

 

[poopdeck]

It’s exceptionally clear and could not be clearer. So clear to me that a second thought about it would have never entered my mind. Fishermen welcome all others not. Fish away.

 

[rustbeltwilds]

yeah it's probably to keep hunters off property fish away son !!!

 

[MaxDog 2.0]

This is how you get your own private trout stream compliments of the fish commission.

 

[Bamboozle]

The yellow sign is the only one that carries any weight on private property.

"Fishing Permitted Courtesy of Landowner" could mean a few things like it USED to be OK to fish but now it isn't and the landowner didn't take down the PFBC sign because of the type of easement granted....

Or fishing is OK but hunting, bird watching, hiking or running your dogs isn't.

If restrictions aren't clearly posted, it was me I'd contact the landowner and ask or contact the WCO for that region.

 

[Paul6.5]

I fish a stream that has the exact signage , it means fishing ok everything else is not. I spoke to the landowner where I fish and he said a DWCO provides the signage and asks to put it on the same post or tree that the no trespassing sign is on.

 

[troutbert]

Is this signage scenario always on stocked streams?

Has anyone ever seen it on an unstocked wild trout stream?

 

[Mike]

The of PFBC “fishing permitted” signs across Pa is standard practice by the PFBC typically when entry for other purposes is not permitted. When such signage is posted, PFBC fish mgmt staff do not count the property’s riparian length toward the total of posted riparian land within a stocked trout section. The total helps determine stocked trout allocations…the less posting the better.

 

[Swattie87]

Is this signage scenario always on stocked streams?

Has anyone ever seen it on an unstocked wild trout stream?

I’ve only personally ever seen it on STW’s. I’d expect if this situation occurred on a special regs section, you’d simply see a special regs sign (as appropriate for whatever the section is managed as) along with the Posted sign.

Never have encountered it on a non stocked stream. (Though admittedly I don’t fish many of these on private land, posted or not.)

 

[laurelhighlander]

When I see posted see signs that just means good fishing. I've fished this a couple times never any problems, a few small fish. I'm prob gonna mouse the yough in Confluence for browns tonight if ur interested. I haven't caught anything huge yet this year but have had consistent smallie and brown action.

 

[[WR]]

I've fished "the old man's beat" at different times of the year and seen both signs posted at the same time. And after talking to 3 of the land owners it's to keep hunters out. They got tired of jerks firing across the creek towards the forest on the opposite banks.

Along with the fishing permitted signs are catch and release, and personal conduct instructions (dont litter, respect the boundaries, etc) as well as a list of the H.O.A. members to call if there are questions (its a loose association since most of the dwellings are summer cabins). Pretty much, the owners let you alone if you're behaving responsibly.

At least that's what was there the last time I went.

 

[Mikey2006]

Is this signage scenario always on stocked streams?

Has anyone ever seen it on an unstocked wild trout stream?

Falling spring fly only section on garman drive has them. Landowners are chill and you can walk down to the stream stream along the farm field. I always assume if a fishing permitted sign is there, fishing is allowed regardless of posted signs, because that’s almost always the case