Juniata River, Perry Co., 09/13/26

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Hit the lower J. yesterday afternoon for some wade fishing. . .

WEATHER: Cloudy, mid 70s. Light breeze from the east.
WATER: 4.1' at Newport, 75 degrees F. according to my thermometer and clear; moderate angling pressure (a couple jet boats and some shore anglers).
HATCHES/FORAGE: Nothing of note.

I was in a fairly well known public access area but noted much less angling pressure than I have witnessed in other recent trips to the J and Susky. Fishing started off slow and I couldn't get a strike on poppers or streamers for the first couple hours, roughly 3-5pm. Another angler I chatted with had had no luck on surface lures and said fishing had been lousy lately and he was leaving. I too was ready to chalk it up to another of my bad luck smallie days I've had this year, and head to another waterway.

However, a failed effort to climb up a steep hillside - dang railroad soft dirt and poison ivy - convinced me to stick it out and attempt to wade out to some willow grass islands that I like. With the slightly high water level, it was tough wading, but a good decision. When I fished the shallow riffles and eddies behind the islands I immediately started getting bit. They didn't want poppers but streamers got chewed. When I further downsized to swinging nymphs, it was off to the races. Caught dozens of bass, including several in the mid teens as well as multiple red-breast sunfish (they were concentrated in the weedy frog water behind the islands). With only a couple exceptions, including a 17" fish at dusk, every bass I hooked was in current and less than 2' of water. Hits were subtle, mostly on the downswing, and many hookups occurred when I lifted to cast.

I have noted in the past an early autumn tendency of bass to be in shallow current areas, but yesterday's situation was interesting. There were no insects in the air, but they really wanted nymphs. I was mostly using a black marabou nymph about 1.5" in length. When I'd hop a stonecat fly through the runs, it would be ignored. As soon as I put the nymph back on, I'd catch fish. Whatever the case, if you're having a slow day this month on the rivers, you might try downsizing your flies and hitting shallow current areas -it was the ticket yesterday.
 

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Hit the lower J. yesterday afternoon for some wade fishing. . .

WEATHER: Cloudy, mid 70s. Light breeze from the east.
WATER: 4.1' at Newport, 75 degrees F. according to my thermometer and clear; moderate angling pressure (a couple jet boats and some shore anglers).
HATCHES/FORAGE: Nothing of note.

I was in a fairly well known public access area but noted much less angling pressure than I have witnessed in other recent trips to the J and Susky. Fishing started off slow and I couldn't get a strike on poppers or streamers for the first couple hours, roughly 3-5pm. Another angler I chatted with had had no luck on surface lures and said fishing had been lousy lately and he was leaving. I too was ready to chalk it up to another of my bad luck smallie days I've had this year, and head to another waterway.

However, a failed effort to climb up a steep hillside - dang railroad soft dirt and poison ivy - convinced me to stick it out and attempt to wade out to some willow grass islands that I like. With the slightly high water level, it was tough wading, but a good decision. When I fished the shallow riffles and eddies behind the islands I immediately started getting bit. They didn't want poppers but streamers got chewed. When I further downsized to swinging nymphs, it was off to the races. Caught dozens of bass, including several in the mid teens as well as multiple red-breast sunfish (they were concentrated in the weedy frog water behind the islands). With only a couple exceptions, including a 17" fish at dusk, every bass I hooked was in current and less than 2' of water. Hits were subtle, mostly on the downswing, and many hookups occurred when I lifted to cast.

I have noted in the past an early autumn tendency of bass to be in shallow current areas, but yesterday's situation was interesting. There were no insects in the air, but they really wanted nymphs. I was mostly using a black marabou nymph about 1.5" in length. When I'd hop a stonecat fly through the runs, it would be ignored. As soon as I put the nymph back on, I'd catch fish. Whatever the case, if you're having a slow day this month on the rivers, you might try downsizing your flies and hitting shallow current areas -it was the ticket yesterday.
Thanks for the report Dave! Your account really explains what I’ve been thinking these last few years - to wit: when fish are pressured enough, they will become hyper selective (“educated”) and eat what looks natural and abundant. And more importantly, many of us old timers lament about how good the fishing used to be - and to that end I’ll say: back in those days, there were more anglers (at least in license sales) BUT the enforced seasons gave the respective species a much needed break in the pressure and the fishing was actually better - I do practice catch and release but feel if you catch a particular fish in a particular stretch of water enough times, it will look for something OTHER than the same flies seen day in and day out - also, keeping some fish ensured that those fish dumb enough to take your fly wouldn’t remain in the gene pool - multiply ALL that by the destruction of habitat, pollution, diseases, invasive species, and the ever present threat of a large solar flare engulfing half the solar system, and you have the fish of today - complete with lesser numbers, scarred jaws, stressed from year ‘round angling pressure, unbalanced food chain, yet still surviving - love that Smallie in your pic!
 
Dear Dave W,

Last year, one week from today my brother and I had a guided drift boat trip on the Juniata. We were upstream from you at Howe Township and didn't start fishing until 12:00 noon, and the fishing was kind of slow early on. We caught enough fish for it to be interesting, but the water was lower and much clearer than it is currently, and sun was bright and strong.

As we drifted and fished, we couldn't help but see all the nice fish sulking on the bottom in 4 or 5 feet of water ignoring our offerings. But once 5:30 PM hit and sun was lower those fish just got up and tied on the feedbag! Nothing bigger than 18 inches, but it was non-stop action until we got off the river at dark.

I was just on the phone with my brother Terry and made the comment that at our ages wading big water isn't the fun it was 25 years ago. I think that ties into JG63's comment well. I'm certain that conditions have changed in the J and the Susky over 25 years but so have we as anglers. The press on regardless mentality is long gone for this old fart! I'm glad you stuck it out!

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
I was just on the phone with my brother Terry and made the comment that at our ages wading big water isn't the fun it was 25 years ago. I think that ties into JG63's comment well. I'm certain that conditions have changed in the J and the Susky over 25 years but so have we as anglers. The press on regardless mentality is long gone for this old fart! I'm glad you stuck it out!

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
I'm right there with you. 🙁
 
I only had one large number day (so far), but the number of mid to high teens fish have been good, a rate (big fish per outing) better than past years. Big fish are nice, but I miss 20 fish outings with 10-15 inch bass.
my biggest problem was sync'ing conditions with my schedule. I only floated once. Attempted another a week ago only to find a mouse or chipmunk got into my tube and chewed two holes. I never leave it in the garage in the fall-winter for this reason. First time I had the little ones in the garage in the summer. I will likely just buy a new tube. One hole destroyed a seem and needed to be repaired by the manufacturer, for 2/3 the cost with shipping of a new tube- easy choice. Live and learn.
 
Hit the lower J. yesterday afternoon for some wade fishing. . .

WEATHER: Cloudy, mid 70s. Light breeze from the east.
WATER: 4.1' at Newport, 75 degrees F. according to my thermometer and clear; moderate angling pressure (a couple jet boats and some shore anglers).
HATCHES/FORAGE: Nothing of note.

I was in a fairly well known public access area but noted much less angling pressure than I have witnessed in other recent trips to the J and Susky. Fishing started off slow and I couldn't get a strike on poppers or streamers for the first couple hours, roughly 3-5pm. Another angler I chatted with had had no luck on surface lures and said fishing had been lousy lately and he was leaving. I too was ready to chalk it up to another of my bad luck smallie days I've had this year, and head to another waterway.

However, a failed effort to climb up a steep hillside - dang railroad soft dirt and poison ivy - convinced me to stick it out and attempt to wade out to some willow grass islands that I like. With the slightly high water level, it was tough wading, but a good decision. When I fished the shallow riffles and eddies behind the islands I immediately started getting bit. They didn't want poppers but streamers got chewed. When I further downsized to swinging nymphs, it was off to the races. Caught dozens of bass, including several in the mid teens as well as multiple red-breast sunfish (they were concentrated in the weedy frog water behind the islands). With only a couple exceptions, including a 17" fish at dusk, every bass I hooked was in current and less than 2' of water. Hits were subtle, mostly on the downswing, and many hookups occurred when I lifted to cast.

I have noted in the past an early autumn tendency of bass to be in shallow current areas, but yesterday's situation was interesting. There were no insects in the air, but they really wanted nymphs. I was mostly using a black marabou nymph about 1.5" in length. When I'd hop a stonecat fly through the runs, it would be ignored. As soon as I put the nymph back on, I'd catch fish. Whatever the case, if you're having a slow day this month on the rivers, you might try downsizing your flies and hitting shallow current areas -it was the ticket yesterday.
good thing you got out today. A wall of muddy water coming that way from last nights heavy rain
 
good thing you got out today. A wall of muddy water coming that way from last nights heavy rain
Dear nymphingmania,

It's deja vu all over again here in Harrisburg. This year has sucked arse down river. When the river was easily fishable the air temps were so high, camels were looking for shade trees to lay down under. Since then, it's been non-stop turd brown water.

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂
 
These unstable conditions are why I've barely smallmouth fished. As soon as the Juniata gets decent again, it gets blown out. But..... it has really kept those trout cricks in nice condition.

Yesterday, I was attempting to mow grass, and my yard was so spongy. I couldn't believe how much moisture was in the earth for this time of year. This has been a good year for recharging our groundwater and whatnot.
 
These unstable conditions are why I've barely smallmouth fished. As soon as the Juniata gets decent again, it gets blown out. But..... it has really kept those trout cricks in nice condition.

Yesterday, I was attempting to mow grass, and my yard was so spongy. I couldn't believe how much moisture was in the earth for this time of year. This has been a good year for recharging our groundwater and whatnot.
yeah, this might set up to be the best fall fishing in quite sometime. I hope it stays good for spawning in Nov
 
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