Tigereye
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Wait til the PaGC and PFBC and DCNR combine. All your questions will be answered and problems solved.
CLARITY AWAITS.
CLARITY AWAITS.
Fluorescent Orange Reqmts
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Bamboozle
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I usually wear an orange hat and an orange bandanna around my neck.
When I fish in/on SGL's frequented by hunters from Metro NJ or NY, I have an orange vest I'll throw on to get me safely back to my car when it starts to sound like Chicago on a weekend...
When thinking of hunting in PA, I always think of this cartoon from "To Hell With Hunting," by Ed Zern:
When I fish in/on SGL's frequented by hunters from Metro NJ or NY, I have an orange vest I'll throw on to get me safely back to my car when it starts to sound like Chicago on a weekend...
When thinking of hunting in PA, I always think of this cartoon from "To Hell With Hunting," by Ed Zern:
6xAdams(Jones)
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Without signage at SGL access areas, how would a person who doesn't purchase a hunting license know of this rule?
I don't think I'll be wearing orange during the spring turkey season, which is explicitly stated in the article. I'm sorry, but I don't give a damn. I'm not always going to start packing orange when I leave for a fishing trip. Fine me.
There are several game lands where I like to fish where I've NEVER SEEN A HUNTER.
There are several game lands where I like to fish where I've NEVER SEEN A HUNTER.
wildtrout2
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I wish that lady in Delaware was wearing some kind of orange, it might well have made the difference. I don't think she was aware of a special early antlerless season on that property though. Plus, it happened at about 7:40PM.
If you were to be cited and it went to a hearing, the magistrate/judge might tell you: ignorantia juris non excusat.
But only if he speaks Latin..
6xAdams(Jones)
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Ignorantia sit beatitudo, until anyone who harasses a hunter must also wear orange.
jeffroey
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I will wear orange - I usually do but after reading the bulletin posted by @Bamboozle, we're burying the lead.
Reading the language, the whole bulletin only applies to persons NOT engaged in lawful hunting, trapping or FISHING on State game lands:
"The commission also amends § 135.41(c)(21) to extend this same date range to the fluorescent orange requirement applicable to persons not engaged in lawful hunting, trapping or fishing on State game lands."
The bulletin uses that language at least three times including the opening paragraph. It seems to me they're targeting all SGL users during hunting season that aren't hunting, trapping, or fishing: people on horses, hiking, tending to their marijuana crop, digging for buried treasure?
Not a lawyer but that's my interpretation.
Reading the language, the whole bulletin only applies to persons NOT engaged in lawful hunting, trapping or FISHING on State game lands:
"The commission also amends § 135.41(c)(21) to extend this same date range to the fluorescent orange requirement applicable to persons not engaged in lawful hunting, trapping or fishing on State game lands."
The bulletin uses that language at least three times including the opening paragraph. It seems to me they're targeting all SGL users during hunting season that aren't hunting, trapping, or fishing: people on horses, hiking, tending to their marijuana crop, digging for buried treasure?
Not a lawyer but that's my interpretation.
caddisflyer
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Many of our state agencies have a real genius for writing rules in a way that is confusing.
This law is as easy of a law to understand as it possibly can be. The problem, as previously stated, is people reading new reports or social media comments on the law rather then reading the actual law. The law itself is very clear. A person not hunting on SGL’s is required to wear a flo orange hat at the minimum. No vest, shirt or anything more then a hat is required. No further definition of what constitutes a non hunter is needed. It does not change the exemptions for bird hunters. The appropriate statues are easily found, easy to read and have already been posted to this thread.
Bamboozle
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WHEN I fished Clarks regularly I encountered hunters, one time right along the waters edge during one of the non-deer seasons.
For as long as I can remember as a tribute to Art Lee, I ALWAYS wear a red bandanna around my neck when fishing which may help. However that day at Clarks, I chatted with the hunters and said that maybe I should wear blaze orange when fishing there...
Even though I'm not a hunter, after that I bought a blaze orange cap & bandanna and added the various hunting seasons to my phone calendar so I knew when to wear orange...
And when to stay home...
FWIW - I will wear the orange stuff at other places during hunting seasons because not all hunting takes place on SGL's. I'll also add that I can't honest;y ever recall a time when I was wearing orange that my catch seemed down because I wasn't as stealthy or tactical as the guys on You Tube.
For as long as I can remember as a tribute to Art Lee, I ALWAYS wear a red bandanna around my neck when fishing which may help. However that day at Clarks, I chatted with the hunters and said that maybe I should wear blaze orange when fishing there...
Even though I'm not a hunter, after that I bought a blaze orange cap & bandanna and added the various hunting seasons to my phone calendar so I knew when to wear orange...
And when to stay home...
FWIW - I will wear the orange stuff at other places during hunting seasons because not all hunting takes place on SGL's. I'll also add that I can't honest;y ever recall a time when I was wearing orange that my catch seemed down because I wasn't as stealthy or tactical as the guys on You Tube.
There are signs posted at the parking areas stating Game Land rules.
td566
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Yes.
Something like “Hunters wear orange, you should too”. Good advice anywhere during hunting seasons.
Something like “Hunters wear orange, you should too”. Good advice anywhere during hunting seasons.
Well, I'm not a fan of this rule, but I had my first run in with PGC while getting ready to fish today on a gamelands. I ended up having to pivot and I couldn't fish my brook trout stream because I forgot about having to have orange.
I dislike this rule for many reasons.
I dislike this rule for many reasons.
wildbrownyb245
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I think it would suffice.
nymphingmaniac
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I approve
salmonoid
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Can you articulate why it is a bad idea to wear orange during hunting season? I've seen you post your dislike earlier on this thread but I am not sure I've seen your full rationale for that stance and I'm genuinely curious why you dislike reducing risk.
Because I am an avid hunter, and I spend many, many days hunting in PA throughout the year, and I have pretty much never once seen anyone hunting small game anywhere even remotely close to a stream that I would fish. If we are talking about rifle deer season, then hell yeah, stay out of the woods. Don't even fish. Fishing then is just plain stupid. But for the spring turkey season and for general seasons when small game is in, I see hardly any potential of being shot or injured while fishing by a hunter. There are just hardly any small game hunters out there anymore. I am not saying that wearing orange is a bad idea. It is a very smart idea to wear orange during any and all hunting seasons, but I think if the angler is willing to take the risk, which I perceive as extremely low, let them have at it. After all, how many fishermen have been shot by hunters in the last 100 years? And, it is only on game lands, which leaves all state forests out from under the ruling.
