So I’ve heard - this is a #8 I’m going to work up a few in tan and pink - most of what I’ve done is on #6 but I have a few streamers for baby Tarpon if I’m lucky enough or smaller Jacks out near the reef I wouldn’t say no to a ‘cuda other as long as I don’t drop the boga gripIn my experience the bones like small stuff there. I can post pictures of my boxes when I get home.