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Turn your flies around push in by hook bend. You won't chew up your foam
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Umpqua Red Brat
Hook - Single salmon
Thread - Black
Tail - Thick bunch of speckled mallard side
Ribbing - Flat silver tinsel
Body - Red or claret chenille
Throat - Speckled mallard side
Wing - Red or claret polar bear (or substitute)
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dc410
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Sulphurs top to bottom - dun, soft hackle & nymph. Cranking out some of my bugs for the current fly swap.
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It's the ringer dude.
bdhoover77
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What are the materials for that sulphur nymph?
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A lot of my flies are a custom combination of materials that I dreamed up at some point and this Sulphur nymph pattern is no exception. I really enjoy tying with natural materials and that is quite evident in this pattern.
Hook: any nymph hook you like - it doesn’t matter
Weight: 5-6 wraps of .015 lead wire under the thorax
Thread: Semperfli Nanosilk 12/0 - brown
Tail: brown partridge fibers
Rib: Ultra wire - brown - Brassie size
Abdomen: mix of Electric Wool dubbing ( 1/2 Dirty Otter, 1/2 Pain in the Ash) - dubbing was created by a fishing buddy of mine - Jack Fields
Wingcase: dark brown wild turkey tertiary feather slip
Thorax: mix of Natural Fox and Brown SLF spikey squirrel dubbing. (Lots of guard hairs included), tied in split thread technique. Pick out the thorax dubbing to represent the legs on the nymph.
falcon
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A good E. Dorothera nymph is a pattern by Henry Ramsey in his book Matching Major Eastern Hatches. A pheasant tail work as well. Hard to find dubbing blends are great but not readily available.
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Looks clean and buggie ! I love this style of dry fly
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Idaho Sunset
Hook - Single salmon
Thread - Fluorescent orange
Ribbing - Silver tinsel
Body - Red tinsel
Throat - Fluorescent red marabou or hackle
Wing - Fluorescent orange bucktail or marabou
Collar - Fluorescent yellow marabou (optional) or hackle
Author's Note
The pattern for this fly, came from the fine book by Bruce Ferguson, Les Johnson, and Pat Trotter, Fly Fishing For Pacific Salmon. They write that this fly, originated by Don Hathaway was developed for the Salmon River, Idaho runs.
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Idaho Sunset
Hook - Single salmon
Thread - Fluorescent orange
Ribbing - Silver tinsel
Body - Red tinsel
Throat - Fluorescent red marabou or hackle
Wing - Fluorescent orange bucktail or marabou
Collar - Fluorescent yellow marabou (optional) or hackle
Author's Note
The pattern for this fly, came from the fine book by Bruce Ferguson, Les Johnson, and Pat Trotter, Fly Fishing For Pacific Salmon. They write that this fly, originated by Don Hathaway was developed for the Salmon River, Idaho runs.
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Very nice tie. I have found this to be a great color combination for flies.
hooker-of-men
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So they're basically a bomber inside a gurgler? Very cool. That's a fly I will never tie 🤣
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sure, i never made that connection but it's definitely a good description.
the original donuthin' did not have the palmered hackling. i fished them for years without it. i
tied a couple with it and liked it so now i do some with and some without.
it's really not all that hard to tie.
hooker-of-men
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The bomber hair body makes me nervous. I've never attempted it. Donuthin' is a pattern I've never seen before. I'm having trouble finding anything about it online.
tomgamber
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Bombers are a good way to learn to spin deer hair. The shape is pretty simple and a good enough size that you can get the hang of it before trying something smaller and possibly more challenging to shave.
Personally, I don't tie those types of things anymore just because I hate to clean up after. I also have this image of my cat with statically charged pieces of deer hair clippings covering his whole body and my wife chasing him around the house with a dustbuster.
Personally, I don't tie those types of things anymore just because I hate to clean up after. I also have this image of my cat with statically charged pieces of deer hair clippings covering his whole body and my wife chasing him around the house with a dustbuster.
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so the pattern was created by Ken Schwamm back in the early 80's. He was one of the early deer hair guys before the current crop of super skilled deer hair artists. he named it the donuthin' because that's how it was fished. cast it across and down and let it swing and wake across the surface. i've shared it with a few folks but have really kinda kept it for myself for decades.
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Ken was well known back in his day and hung out on the Stripers on Line site screen name 10x10. lot's of his old posts and knowledge can be found there still.
here's his tutorial on spinning hair and tying his deer hair slider for stripers.
This week's tip of the week comes from 10X10. Before his untimely passing, 10X10 or "Ken" as his friends knew him shared a wealth of information in many of the SOL forums. Most notable were his contributions to the fly tying forum. I dug out the post below in which 10X10 goes into great detail on how to spin deerhair and how to tie his slider bug. The detail is incredible, the tying flawless. I hope you can take as much away from this as I did.
Spinning Deer Hair, The Slider Bug
I'll tie a black slider bug. That's a simple fly to make. Here's all the tools I use to spin deer hair.
I like long bladed scissors for trimming. Long cuts give the finished bug a smoother appearance. I use a clamp style vise. Pedestal is OK but I'd clamp it down if possible. You need to pull pretty hard sometimes. For thread I like size A flat waxed nylon made by Danville. I've tried pretty much everything and that's my favorite thread for spinning.
After you've tied in the tail feathers cut off as much hair as you can hold between your thumb and forefinger. Hold it by the very tips and comb out all the stuff that's shorter. You'll end up with about half as much. Hold it in your left hand with tips of the hair facing towards the tail on top of the hook. Your thread should be hanging directly in front of where the tail is tied in underneath your thumb.
Push the hair down around the hook slightly so it starts to surround it. Like this;
Take a loose turn of thread around the bundle of hair one complete revolution. As you come around over the top with the thread for the second time start to pull hard enough to flair the hair but do not let go of the tips just yet.
Zig-zag your thread forward through the flared butts until you are in front of the hair altogether with the thread
Take a 1/2 dozen turns of thread in front of the hair like this and put a drop of cement on the wraps. Don't use crazy glue. Regular varnish thinned down is ideal.
Tie the next bundle directly on top of the wraps of thread. Do this before you apply each bundle of hair as you fill up the hook. Continue filling up the hook with hair
Filling the hook with hair continued;
Here's how I pack the hair. Take about ten or so turns of thread directly in front of the last application of hair like this;
Simply shove it back with your fingertips. Use your left hand on the hook bend to give you something to push against. Note how much bare hook shank is now showing as compared to the last picture.
By using the thread itself as the packing tool you can not tear the hair loose since you are no longer pushing the hair it self. The thread will slide back until there is no place left to go, essentially making the hair packed as tight as it possibly can be made as the wraps holding it in place are being compressed by your thread "packer".
Ok spinning the hair is done now you got to trim it.
This is where those long bladed scissors make the difference. Here's a picture of the first cut I make to get the bullet shaped head;
Note that the cut in the hair is in line with the line of the tail. This really helps establish a depth and angle of cut which in turn will give the fly a smooth outline and silhouette.
I rotate the fly as I trim it working from the nose to the collar making sure I don't trim off the deer hair tips where the deer head meets the feather tail. This collar also helps everything blend together and give you a smooth appearance as well.
Hopefully yours comes out like this;
Don't be discouraged if yours doesn't look exactly like mine. I've tied thousands of these things. It takes some practice to get the hang of it.
10X10's original post ends here. Below are additional comments 10X10 made to address some questions folks asked;
What kind of deer hair is best for spinning? - You'll get the best results with deer body hair that is from the flanks and belly of the deer. Body hair is full of little air pockets which are what makes the hair flair. It also makes it float. Most fly shops will have some. It comes in various sized pieces and the hair is on the skin. It seem hard to find any in large quantities though. Bucktail is a solid hair and will not crimp as easily as body hair. It does not float. It's better for streamers, bucktails and jigs and tails on lures.
How do you shape the head so symmetrically? - Those long bladed scissors make all the difference. They should be sharp too. Sharp scissors cut a lot cleaner than dull ones. It takes me less than a minute to trim a slider bug head. Trimming is actually the hard part. You have to have somewhat of an eye for visualizing what it should look like. Somewhat like a carver sees the subject he's carving in a block of wood or stone. You have to do it over and over again to get it right. Don't expect the first one to come out perfect.
I'll do some stuff on stacking deer hair next week.
What is the purpose of the comb? , The comb is used to clean out all the underfur and short hairs form each bundle of hair before you tie it on. A dog brush works pretty good too.
here's his tutorial on spinning hair and tying his deer hair slider for stripers.
This week's tip of the week comes from 10X10. Before his untimely passing, 10X10 or "Ken" as his friends knew him shared a wealth of information in many of the SOL forums. Most notable were his contributions to the fly tying forum. I dug out the post below in which 10X10 goes into great detail on how to spin deerhair and how to tie his slider bug. The detail is incredible, the tying flawless. I hope you can take as much away from this as I did.
Spinning Deer Hair, The Slider Bug
I'll tie a black slider bug. That's a simple fly to make. Here's all the tools I use to spin deer hair.
I like long bladed scissors for trimming. Long cuts give the finished bug a smoother appearance. I use a clamp style vise. Pedestal is OK but I'd clamp it down if possible. You need to pull pretty hard sometimes. For thread I like size A flat waxed nylon made by Danville. I've tried pretty much everything and that's my favorite thread for spinning.
After you've tied in the tail feathers cut off as much hair as you can hold between your thumb and forefinger. Hold it by the very tips and comb out all the stuff that's shorter. You'll end up with about half as much. Hold it in your left hand with tips of the hair facing towards the tail on top of the hook. Your thread should be hanging directly in front of where the tail is tied in underneath your thumb.
Push the hair down around the hook slightly so it starts to surround it. Like this;
Take a loose turn of thread around the bundle of hair one complete revolution. As you come around over the top with the thread for the second time start to pull hard enough to flair the hair but do not let go of the tips just yet.
Zig-zag your thread forward through the flared butts until you are in front of the hair altogether with the thread
Take a 1/2 dozen turns of thread in front of the hair like this and put a drop of cement on the wraps. Don't use crazy glue. Regular varnish thinned down is ideal.
Tie the next bundle directly on top of the wraps of thread. Do this before you apply each bundle of hair as you fill up the hook. Continue filling up the hook with hair
Filling the hook with hair continued;
Here's how I pack the hair. Take about ten or so turns of thread directly in front of the last application of hair like this;
Simply shove it back with your fingertips. Use your left hand on the hook bend to give you something to push against. Note how much bare hook shank is now showing as compared to the last picture.
By using the thread itself as the packing tool you can not tear the hair loose since you are no longer pushing the hair it self. The thread will slide back until there is no place left to go, essentially making the hair packed as tight as it possibly can be made as the wraps holding it in place are being compressed by your thread "packer".
Ok spinning the hair is done now you got to trim it.
This is where those long bladed scissors make the difference. Here's a picture of the first cut I make to get the bullet shaped head;
Note that the cut in the hair is in line with the line of the tail. This really helps establish a depth and angle of cut which in turn will give the fly a smooth outline and silhouette.
I rotate the fly as I trim it working from the nose to the collar making sure I don't trim off the deer hair tips where the deer head meets the feather tail. This collar also helps everything blend together and give you a smooth appearance as well.
Hopefully yours comes out like this;
Don't be discouraged if yours doesn't look exactly like mine. I've tied thousands of these things. It takes some practice to get the hang of it.
10X10's original post ends here. Below are additional comments 10X10 made to address some questions folks asked;
What kind of deer hair is best for spinning? - You'll get the best results with deer body hair that is from the flanks and belly of the deer. Body hair is full of little air pockets which are what makes the hair flair. It also makes it float. Most fly shops will have some. It comes in various sized pieces and the hair is on the skin. It seem hard to find any in large quantities though. Bucktail is a solid hair and will not crimp as easily as body hair. It does not float. It's better for streamers, bucktails and jigs and tails on lures.
How do you shape the head so symmetrically? - Those long bladed scissors make all the difference. They should be sharp too. Sharp scissors cut a lot cleaner than dull ones. It takes me less than a minute to trim a slider bug head. Trimming is actually the hard part. You have to have somewhat of an eye for visualizing what it should look like. Somewhat like a carver sees the subject he's carving in a block of wood or stone. You have to do it over and over again to get it right. Don't expect the first one to come out perfect.
I'll do some stuff on stacking deer hair next week.
What is the purpose of the comb? , The comb is used to clean out all the underfur and short hairs form each bundle of hair before you tie it on. A dog brush works pretty good too.
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#2 bucktail treble hooks. An Xmas gift for my father-in-law for his pike spinners and spoons.
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