Fished the river in Conshy today for about 2 hours. I ended up with 10 smallies all in the 12-14" range and all caught on a white and blue deceiver. The water was of course low, cool and very clear. I saw some nice smallies in the deeper holes but no takers.
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About the rainbow... You'd be surprised at the numbers of trout that make their way into that river as far downstream as Philly. The fish ladder at the art museum has a viewing window and large specimens of all three trout species have been spotted.
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MattBoyer wrote:
You mean coming up? Very interesting. Atlantic steel would be pretty bad ***. :-D
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Poor wording on my part. It's not really a ladder, but more of a passage way. It's a very small dam. They pass back and forth, as do river otters, tons of snakes, shad, etc.
You mean coming up? Very interesting. Atlantic steel would be pretty bad ***. :-D
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Poor wording on my part. It's not really a ladder, but more of a passage way. It's a very small dam. They pass back and forth, as do river otters, tons of snakes, shad, etc.
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I see where you're going Jay, but what I'm asking is: If they can survive in the warm stretches, and there are clearly sea-going fish using the area, how cost prohibitive would it be to switch the current brood stock for rainbows to say the Chamber's creek strain or even better yet Skamania strain? They would still be stocking rainbows but let's imagine a few have the urge to run to sea........ I always just assumed that the reason there haven't been any anadromous fish introduced into the system was because they would die in the warm water in the lower stretches of the river. I guess the big issue would be it's impact on marine life, since the river already has them in it and the are probably not going away. Sorry to hijack a report, but Jay started it! 😛
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Matt,
New Jersey had proposed stocking the Delaware River with steelhead / salmon nine or ten years ago. Most PA & NY conservation organizations were opposed because of the possible impact on the existing fish and marine life, and the circus it would create along the Delaware. Here is a NY Times article about it from their archives. To my knowledge the idea is dead….hopefully.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE7D61338F932A35756C0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
New Jersey had proposed stocking the Delaware River with steelhead / salmon nine or ten years ago. Most PA & NY conservation organizations were opposed because of the possible impact on the existing fish and marine life, and the circus it would create along the Delaware. Here is a NY Times article about it from their archives. To my knowledge the idea is dead….hopefully.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE7D61338F932A35756C0A96E948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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I like how they refer to "native" brown and rainbow populations being affected. While agree that it would be bad for that reason, I object to the terminology. Why not stock something that once ran in and out of the Delaware, historically. Or spend all that money improving the habitat for all those wild trout that live there now.
Tom,
I agree, instead of wasting money on stocking possibly detrimental species, why not take that money and clean up the river systems and improve both fish habitat and access points?
I am sick of picking A/C units, bikes, scrap metal and general trash out of the water ways!!!! On the Perkiomen last week I pulled 2 10 speed bikes out from under the VF foot bridge and I got an old A/C unit and half of a inflatable raft out of the Schuylkill over the weekend in Birdsboro. This is just terrible and I am sure the rest of you have seen similar situations.
ok thats the end of my rant
Bob
I agree, instead of wasting money on stocking possibly detrimental species, why not take that money and clean up the river systems and improve both fish habitat and access points?
I am sick of picking A/C units, bikes, scrap metal and general trash out of the water ways!!!! On the Perkiomen last week I pulled 2 10 speed bikes out from under the VF foot bridge and I got an old A/C unit and half of a inflatable raft out of the Schuylkill over the weekend in Birdsboro. This is just terrible and I am sure the rest of you have seen similar situations.
ok thats the end of my rant
Bob
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While I agree with your point about wasting money, Bob, I was talking about the Schuylkill, which already has a put and take stocking program in place. I definitely wasn't talking Chinook or Coho, I was just wondering if 2 other strains of rainbow would cost more to stock. Now the Raritan, on the other hand, I will be visiting in about 3 years, maybe 4 and 5 years. :lol:
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Boyer,
I think there are a few dams that are slated for removal before the fish could run all the way up to the point that the schuylkill becomes a trout stream. I know they are working on making all of them shad-friendly though, and they've been introducing shad fry pretty far upriver.
I think there are a few dams that are slated for removal before the fish could run all the way up to the point that the schuylkill becomes a trout stream. I know they are working on making all of them shad-friendly though, and they've been introducing shad fry pretty far upriver.
This is true, from what I have heard there are some dams that are slated for removal and some of the others are just being forgotten about to wash out. The small one on River rd. In W. Conshy is falling apart and is nothing compared to what it was 6 years ago.
Sorry about the rant up there, got a little angry about the past few weeks pf picking up more trash than fishing!
Bob
Sorry about the rant up there, got a little angry about the past few weeks pf picking up more trash than fishing!
Bob
