rockview property proposal

Would be nice and potentially long generationally valued to keep it public.

Although it's been obvious that few people today actually look up from the iphone and other virtual, man-fantasy created worlds of input, it must be considered that there will be a demand - at least in the future beyond the passing of the existing population - for the opportunity to be exposed to, learn from, and learn how to absorb, incorporate and express reality.

Aerial images have shown that vast thousands of acres everywhere have been converted from large tract intact properties that provide wilderness and sustainable wildlife into many, many acres of high density residential buildings (called houses).

(From the aerial view, the new stuff looks like computer chip design with all the cul-de-sacs.)

Colonies of muskrats no longer exist. Many varieties of birds no longer exist.

Domestic-bred pets neutered are released within residential communities and the green lands surrounding them. They kill much of the wildlife, even when it's absolutely not necessary for the killing of wildlife because the roaming cats in the neighborhood and edges generally being fed at backdoor.

Point is, there is absolutely no need to provide more destruction of natural lands owned by the public by selling it off by auction.

The brief income to local/state government is in no way logical for the benefit of mankind.
 
Would be nice and potentially long generationally valued to keep it public.

Although it's been obvious that few people today actually look up from the iphone and other virtual, man-fantasy created worlds of input, it must be considered that there will be a demand - at least in the future beyond the passing of the existing population - for the opportunity to be exposed to, learn from, and learn how to absorb, incorporate and express reality.

Aerial images have shown that vast thousands of acres everywhere have been converted from large tract intact properties that provide wilderness and sustainable wildlife into many, many acres of high density residential buildings (called houses).

(From the aerial view, the new stuff looks like computer chip design with all the cul-de-sacs.)

Colonies of muskrats no longer exist. Many varieties of birds no longer exist.

Domestic-bred pets neutered are released within residential communities and the green lands surrounding them. They kill much of the wildlife, even when it's absolutely not necessary for the killing of wildlife because the roaming cats in the neighborhood and edges generally being fed at backdoor.

Point is, there is absolutely no need to provide more destruction of natural lands owned by the public by selling it off by auction.

The brief income to local/state government is in no way logical for the benefit of mankind.
Hopefully all of the land near Spring Creek will go to the Game Commission / Fish commission and be kept as open land for outdoor use
 
sounds like a great place for a new Sheetz, a Dave’s Hot Chicken, a large parking lot, and several competing car wash establishments. Who cares if a few ecosystems get damaged - it will bring revenue to a cash starved township! 😬
 
sounds like a great place for a new Sheetz, a Dave’s Hot Chicken, a large parking lot, and several competing car wash establishments. Who cares if a few ecosystems get damaged - it will bring revenue to a cash starved township! 😬
So you’ve been on Linglestown Road in the Blue Ridge area. Not all of the same establishments you mentioned, but equivalent…especially the hideous looking car wash.
 
So you’ve been on Linglestown Road in the Blue Ridge area. Not all of the same establishments you mentioned, but equivalent…especially the hideous looking car wash.
That - and the Carlisle Pike from Camp Hill to Middlesex - and just about every other town having a miracle mile of car dealers, retail hell on earth wal-mart, Costco, Appleby’s, Burlington, Gabe’s, Kohls, Aldi, etc etc. I’ve been all over these United States and seen it everywhere 😕
 
sounds like a great place for a new Sheetz, a Dave’s Hot Chicken, a large parking lot, and several competing car wash establishments. Who cares if a few ecosystems get damaged - it will bring revenue to a cash starved township! 😬

I like the chicken at Dave's Hot Chicken.
 
I like the chicken at Dave's Hot Chicken.
Oh yeah - I’m not saying it’s not good - it is the best on our miracle mile in Mechanicsburg - beating out KFC, Chik-fil-a, and Raising Cains (all within three miles of each other) hands down!
 
Oh yeah - I’m not saying it’s not good - it is the best on our miracle mile in Mechanicsburg - beating out KFC, Chik-fil-a, and Raising Cains (all within three miles of each other) hands down!

I've not tried Raising Canes yet. I've been through the area you mentioned. It seems to get more built-up every time I get through there.
 
A friend of mine used to live in Lewisberry/ Etters. From 1992 till about ten years ago, I used to go out once a year from Pittsburgh to his house to fish the Yellow Breeches. I lived in the Harrisburg area in the 1970s so I knew the area. I would travel the backroads from Lewisberry to Boiling Springs. Every year more and more farms were disappearing replaced by new housing developments. Haven’t been out that way for awhile so hopefully it’s not all built up. On the other hand, I live in the City of Pittsburgh bordering Dormont and Greentree in the South Hills.
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I have five acres of woods behind and beside my property owned by my neighbor. Not unusual to see bands of eight deer and some very nice bucks. I have rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, ground hog, opossum and raccoons in my yard. Recently we saw a red fox. My neighbor said he’s seen coyotes but I haven’t. I also have over ten species of birds in our yard. It’s very interesting at times.
 
I was on the “West Shore” this past weekend to get some gift cards for coworkers for the holidays from the places they wanted them. It took me 18 minutes to get from Wegmans to Honey Baked Hams. About 2 miles. About half of that was just getting out of the Wegmans complex parking lot.

Other than downtown Hershey, far less buildup and traffic on the east side of the river. That Blue Ridge area west of Linglestown is seeing a lot of newly built townhome developments, and hence the commercial development you see along Linglestown Rd. in that area. I’m a couple miles east of Linglestown. I’ll take the traffic in/around Colonial Park/Linglestown Rd. over the West Shore any day.
 
Back to the OP. I just don’t want to see any additional accesses built between Benner Springs and the Paradise. I’d like to see that stay foot (or bike) access only.

A quick review of onx shows all the lands west of 99 ("spring creek canyon")being either part of Game lands 333 or owned by PSU, and current Rockview prison lands only west of 99.

I don't see how additional access would arise from the sale or development of the prison property. If it's going to happen it would likely be some separate project with the involvement of the PAGC or PSU
 
I was on the “West Shore” this past weekend to get some gift cards for coworkers for the holidays from the places they wanted them. It took me 18 minutes to get from Wegmans to Honey Baked Hams. About 2 miles. About half of that was just getting out of the Wegmans complex parking lot.

Other than downtown Hershey, far less buildup and traffic on the east side of the river. That Blue Ridge area west of Linglestown is seeing a lot of newly built townhome developments, and hence the commercial development you see along Linglestown Rd. in that area. I’m a couple miles east of Linglestown. I’ll take the traffic in/around Colonial Park/Linglestown Rd. over the West Shore any day.
Welcome to the neighborhood 🙄
 
A quick review of onx shows all the lands west of 99 ("spring creek canyon")being either part of Game lands 333 or owned by PSU, and current Rockview prison lands only west of 99.

I don't see how additional access would arise from the sale or development of the prison property. If it's going to happen it would likely be some separate project with the involvement of the PAGC or PSU

I remember early in my FFing career thinking the road into the middle of the Canyon section actually went through to the old bridge. Figured that was about halfway between BS and FFP and would be a good place to start. My first trip to Spring IIRC. We came in from the east end, and were promptly stopped and pulled over by prison security (still east of 99 IIRC) who had a lot of questions for us. Assume they saw all the FFing gear and figured we weren’t up to any trouble, and pointed us on our way but asked us to not make that mistake again. Not sure what (if anything) has changed since, but that experience is what had me thinking that.

Now I’m glad you can’t get down into the middle section via vehicle.
 
I remember early in my FFing career thinking the road into the middle of the Canyon section actually went through to the old bridge. Figured that was about halfway between BS and FFP and would be a good place to start. My first trip to Spring IIRC. We came in from the east end, and were promptly stopped and pulled over by prison security (still east of 99 IIRC) who had a lot of questions for us. Assume they saw all the FFing gear and figured we weren’t up to any trouble, and pointed us on our way but asked us to not make that mistake again. Not sure what (if anything) has changed since, but that experience is what had me thinking that.

Now I’m glad you can’t get down into the middle section via vehicle.
That road (Rockview Road) is still closed and posted by the penitentiary. As you walk up through the canyon, you will see the bottom end of that road, and the no trespassing signs. The road comes in near the pumping station.
 
sounds like a great place for a new Sheetz, a Dave’s Hot Chicken, a large parking lot, and several competing car wash establishments. Who cares if a few ecosystems get damaged - it will bring revenue to a cash starved township! 😬
Don't forget about a Dollar General, nail salon, and a pizza shop.
 
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