East Branch Brandywine Creek (DHALO), Chester Co, 6/14/15

lucky

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New to fly fishing and newer to the forum so forgive any silly mistakes in this!

Hit the DHALO section around 1pm yesterday. Parked in the lot at the south end of Shelmire, walked upsteam a few hundred yards and waded in. Air temp around 80f, not sure about the water. First time at this river but water level seemed lower then i expected. Had one possible take on a caddis but caught nothing. Saw maybe 2/3 distant rises in the hour i was there. Didn't put eyes on any fish. Worked my way down to where I'd parked to a deeper pool but a family came swimming and that put an end to that. Passed one lady heading out with a spin rod on my way back.

Drove to the north limit of the DHALO section and got in at the bridge. Worked my way about 3/4 mile downstream in the center of the river casting to any deeper pools i could see. Saw a few deer running across the river as well as heron and some large eagle/hawk, but no fish. Not alot of insect activity and i'm assuming it was too hot and not a great time of day?

I did meet an older guy in the parking lot who seemed amused i didn't catch anything and suggested i should have focused on the downstream section of the river instead. All in all a nice day in a river to myself, some good casting practice and a great way to sweat out a hangover.

This would be my third time out fly fishing. The first was an evening at Pickering learning how to cast without embarrassing myself and not even thinking about fish , the second ended in 20 minutes with a broken rod tip, and this would be the third. I'm really enjoying being out in the water, but starting to get a little frustrated.

Without asking for any private/unknown spots anyone have a suggestion for where/when to hit (within reasonable distance of west chester/downingtown area) if i just want to catch something already? I'm not obsessed with catching trout(yet), i'd happily spend a day catching sunnies, chub, bass, bluegills, whatever. Anything to keep me banging my head against this fly fishing thing and keep me from heading back under the Marsh creek bridge with a tub of worms?
 
Don't do it,lucky.!!Go back to Marsh Creek dunkin' worms.

If you are willing to venture out a bit further some day,I'll take you to the Tully,the Mattatawny, or even some sections of the LR(temps permitting)

I live in West Chester and retired and I fish a lot(also hunt a lot in the fall and winter).With your track record on 3 broken tips(assuming in a short time),WE NEED TO TALK.Thee are a few things we could discuss that will minimize broken tips

PM me if you want to get out

BTW:welcome to the Forum and your first post
 
I'm free to fish Wednesday and Thursday,lucky
 
If you really need the practice casting, one of the cleared shorelines at Marsh Creek might not be the worst place to end up. Eliminate the branches and current on the stream and just focus on controlling the rod and line for awhile. Put on a little woolly bugger and you can definitely catch some panfish.
 
Ha, no, three trips, not tips!. Only the one broken tip thankfully, got snagged on the back cast and ended up casting out what i thought was a twig tangled to my line, only to reel in 6 inches of rod. Them's the breaks i guess.

I'm actually relatively "okay" as far as casting goes now, not good by any means and alot to learn, but i seem to be catching on quickly. Practicing on land helped with the basics.

I guess the biggest thing i'm wondering now is am i going about the actually process all wrong. Is it almost futile to go during the afternoons when it's this hot? I'm wondering if i need to go morning/evening when it's a bit cooler and there would be more activity?

Fitting things in around work has been tricky but planning to head to the pickering again later this week/weekend. My general plan was to start at the footbridge and work my way upstream on the path hopping into the water at any likely pools? If nothing else it's a really pretty place and i always get some good photos.

Might be the wrong section of the forum for these questions btw so let me know if thats the case.
 
Firstly, I would recommend you get a thermometer and use it. Since we are having a heat wave and it isn't cooling much at night I would be shocked if the lower Brandywine (DH area) isn't in the 70's. That would also have contributed to your lack of success. If you are planning to fish for trout you should know you are probably going to lead to their imminent demise if you hook and play them in those conditions. I'm referring to freestone streams like French, Pickering, and the Brandywine. Limestone streams are a much better option at this time. I'd love to hear the Pickering is below 70 but I'd be surprised by that as well. I have to drop some materials out that way tomorrow so I'll check if I can.
 
Do not give up!!!

It takes time to get proficient with a fly rod. However, try to remember conditions. Unless your fish a limestone stream like the Letort or Spring Creek, hot summer days are only productive on small freestone streams after rain usually. Better to chuck stuff to bass, carp or whatever.

Conditions trump everything.

Conditions, stealth, presentation, size, color, exact match.
Fly is least important and you could swap 2and 3.

Have fun!
 
Yeah water temp is getting up there- you might still be able to catch a trout or two but I think you're better off going after smallmouth bass and panfish in the west branch the rest of the summer. I like the area around Embreeville.

The first year I flyfished, I didn't try anywhere except the pond at my neighbors house. Catching bluegills is great practice for presenting a fly and setting the hook. Everything happens 10x faster when you go to moving water.
 
All good advice above.

The B-Wine water temp was likely close to 80* when you fished it. That is way too warm for trout fishing.

10 minutes away from where you were fishing is Marsh Creek Reservoir. There are plenty of panfish and bass to catch there.

Also, some good advice above about fishing the B-Wine River if you like to fish moving water. You should be able to hook into some panfish and bass anywhere you fish it.

Good luck.
 
Lots of great advice, thank you guys. I used hit up Westtown Lake regularly for lazy afternoons in camping chair, but since it got closed off a few years back i'd gotten away from fishing.

I think i'll leave the trout-ey areas alone for a few months. I've never enjoyed marsh creek too much for some reason, maybe cos i never enjoyed spinning that much.

I figure i'll check out the West Branch a shot around where Buck Run enters, and further downstream below the dam looks like there's a lot to access it from also.
 
I did check some streams while in Chester Co. today. Here's what I found: Pickering was 74 at the top of the Regs section and immediately below a nice small stream feed. This was in a shady spot at about 10:30. About 10:45 I checked French at Pughtown Rd probably a little less than a mi below the FFO. That was 75 and bear in mind it was still mid morning. Both places undoubtedly go warmer than that. Wanted to check Valley but Church Rd was closed and I still had more errands to run. Just wanted to substantiate the comments about the temps.
 
this is the worst spring ever for trout fishing weather and water temps - if it stays like this i'm going to be limited to the Big Gunpowder Falls and Pohopoco until October.

it sucks.
 
geebee wrote:
this is the worst spring ever for trout fishing weather and water temps...
I'll agree as far as stream levels go, but I haven't fished a freestone stream (tribs) that has gotten to 60F yet. I'm talking Pocono's and NC Pa.
 
Right now, I'd suggest the Little Lehigh below the hatchery., if trout is your preferred quarry, in the vicinity of the old fly shop. Get some 7x tippet to tie on the end of your leader and size 22 trico imitations. At least there you will see trout, and cast to them. They are picky and can be tough but at least you will get tons of casting practice and targets to go after. Get there early before 6 am is not crazy at all. No wading allowed.

Welcome to the sport you can spend a lifetime learning.
 
Pretty sure they changed the wading regulations a few years ago. People wade all the time but your probably better off not trying to get in the water.
 
Stopped by there this afternoon. Water was low 70's so I left. Few guys fishing though. Saw a few trout rising.
 
put a big dry on when your fishing the dhalo of the brandywine. failfish save the day.
 
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