Valley creek, 4/29/2008

Anthony

Anthony

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Great day on Valley. Caught lots of small ones. Also, two nice ones 14" and 9" on a starling hackle wet fly that I used most of the time.
 
Anthony,

I have never heard of that fly and was interested in what it looked like. Can you possibly post a picture or a recipe of it?
Thanks for the help.

Mattmask
 
mattmask,

Starling is a soft hackle feather. Some like it more than partrige.

http://ontheflyguiding.com/images/Flies/General%20Nymphs/PT_soft_hackle.JPG

I'd be interested to hear what pattern Anthony was using there.
 
Please read and comply with the sticky thread at the top of the Stream Reports Forum explaining the appropriate information, format and titling of stream reports.
 
Matt,
Here is the pattern for a Starling hackle wet fly

Hook size 14
Thread Orange
Rib Gold wire
Body Arctic Fox fur tan
Hackle Starling

I was at Valley this morning and caught one.
 

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I think it imitate craneflies that start around the middle of April.
 
Are the cranes still coming off over there? I haven't hit the Valley in a couple weeks
 
I was there on Saturday and I saw a couple coming off, but I think it's over for that particular cranefly.
 
how about caddis? any of those guys still hanging around over there or is it down to just midges now?
 
I've seen very sparse sulphurs this late in the year before, as well as some caddis.

It's about terrestrial time on valley-- my favorite. Tis the season!
 
why is terrestrial time your favorite Jay? I heard it gets real tough when its terrestrial time over there.

Also, this may be a really stupid question, I apologize if thats the case, but what exactly constitutes a terrestrial?
 
Timmy,

It's my favorite, because trout will rise all day. Also, you don't have to look for a specific riser, but you can "prospect" all day. Terrestrials are my favorite flies to fish on any water. A small foam ant behind an elk hair caddis will soon attach itsself to my 3wt, and won't come off until sweatshirt weather is here.

🙂

Valley might get harder, but the summertime is when I get to fish it most. It just works out that way, and I've gotten used to it.
 
This prolly goes without saying and not directed to anyone specifically, but I am gonna post it anyway...with the 'excessive heat' forecasted in the near future, Valley is better off left alone. Yes, the fish are wild, which means they do survive the intense summer heat and low water that tends to plague SE PA year after year, however, they are stressed enough imo even without us targeting them.

On top of this, there have been fish kills the last few years during the summer months for reason not known - - so please use your best judgement when going after the wilds in this fantastic resource that so many have put endless hours in protecting.
 
vcregular,

I hear what you are saying. I can fish valley any day I want, I drive over it on the way home from work daily. Probably won't fish it this weekend cause I don't want to be out in that heat either!

I talked to a guy over at Valley, hes on this board and a member of VFTU, he mentioned a fish kill to me that happened last year I believe and he said it was from the fish being electroshocked and not revived properly. He said about 200 fish were killed. Is this perhaps what you are referring to with the kills or are these unrelated incidents?

I just started fishing there this year and promptly joined VFTU as it was clearly obvious from the stream improvements I saw there alone how much they were helping that stream. I haven't made it to a meeting yet but I hope to soon.

Jay, we gotta meet up over there one day after work!
 
I agree about fishing it when the water's warm. When the conditions feel unsafe, I usually avoid it.

Timmy,

I'd be happy to meet you out there. I have alot to learn about that stream, and wouldn't mind sharing some tactics with others.
 
vcregular,

I agree with you. We should be mindful of the conditions at Valley Creek and we should appreciate the opportunity to fish there. Also, we should treat it as a special place because it is one of the few native trout streams in the area.
 
i found this and some of you may enjoy it. In the Results section it talks about temperature effects on the stream. Looks like the main culprit for high fluxuations is storm water runoff.Valley Creek
 
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