Tulpehocken, Berks County, 06/12/2010
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I fished down from Reber's Bridge on Saturday 6/19/2010 and it was excellent. I did not have anyone fishing near me. I broke off 6 and brought 3 Brookies to the net. I was using Trico patterns male and female and I used a Grey Trico that I tie myself. They were size 20 to size 22. I have a BWO land on my arm, first time I have seen one there. I think that was the coolest thing that happend that day. It had typical clear wings that folded up right and a nice green body.
jdaddy
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Wow, no one around you on a Saturday below Reber's. I drove by Reber's around 6:00 AM and the parking lot was full and I could see waving rods from the bridge. You hit it at the right time.
That is a heck of a lot of break offs, even with 7/8x tippet!
Brookies?
No pressure and Brookies. Are you sure you were on the Tully? LOL. 🙂
I got there at 520 am and there was 3 car in the parking lot. When I left at 10am the parking lot was full. There was a lot of bikers and runners. When I left I saw 4 guys above the bridge and only 2 guys below the bridge.
Yes I was using 8X tippet and I do break a lot off. Setting the hook way to hard is the problem. I was surprised that i did not catch or see any Rainbows.
I am really surprised how low the number of Fly Fisherman I have seen this year. I actually got a chance to fish above the bridge about a month ago with out anyone there for an hour.
Yes I was using 8X tippet and I do break a lot off. Setting the hook way to hard is the problem. I was surprised that i did not catch or see any Rainbows.
I am really surprised how low the number of Fly Fisherman I have seen this year. I actually got a chance to fish above the bridge about a month ago with out anyone there for an hour.
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In 15+ yrs of fishing the Tully, I've never heard of a brookie being caught in the DH section below the lake. The water temps and water quality would not work for brookies. I'd go as far as saying that you could stick a brookie in there and it probably would survive 24 hrs. Plum Crk, below the bridge, sure isn't adding any clean cold water to the river. I think most of the fish stocked were browns (jdaddy would know) and that's why you're seein less rainbows this year.
I fished Saturday from 5:30-10 between Cacoosing and bridge w/ many names. I could see 6 other anglers. On my way out, There were at least 5 guys above Rebers and 2 guys were already fishing there when I was driving in.
I fished Saturday from 5:30-10 between Cacoosing and bridge w/ many names. I could see 6 other anglers. On my way out, There were at least 5 guys above Rebers and 2 guys were already fishing there when I was driving in.
RT stocked in the upper section, BT (Brown Trout) stocked in the lower section this spring.
http://www.paflyfish.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12382&forum=4&post_id=158408#forumpost158408
I'm still holding out on fishing until they build that walkway. I'll be first in line to buy my "Tully Tokens" for the turnstiles...lol
http://www.paflyfish.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12382&forum=4&post_id=158408#forumpost158408
I'm still holding out on fishing until they build that walkway. I'll be first in line to buy my "Tully Tokens" for the turnstiles...lol
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I regularly fish all sections of the Tully, from the dam way down into the ATW and my catch is 90% browns. I caught a bunch of freshly stocked, really washed out ugly rainbows early in the year, however the few rainbows I am catching now are absolutely beautifully colored and run hot as butter on a Georgia sidewalk.
Went out last night and fished from the dam down to water works. Flows are terrible and temps were around 72. I did not fish, simply walked the creek making mental notes of future holding holes when the water gets back up to over ankle deep. All the normal holding areas were a foot deep at best. We did fish the standard holes around water works as dark approached and did well, however I felt really bad about the water temps, low flow and stress on fish. There was a ton of tiny little white/yellow mayflies in the film. Not sure what they were. Fish were responding to 18 x-caddis and 24 trico with most wing material pulled to resemble midge. Probably the last time I will fish it until flows and temps get better. We do have a few days of rain coming up. Historically temps should still be hovering at or below 70.
Went out last night and fished from the dam down to water works. Flows are terrible and temps were around 72. I did not fish, simply walked the creek making mental notes of future holding holes when the water gets back up to over ankle deep. All the normal holding areas were a foot deep at best. We did fish the standard holes around water works as dark approached and did well, however I felt really bad about the water temps, low flow and stress on fish. There was a ton of tiny little white/yellow mayflies in the film. Not sure what they were. Fish were responding to 18 x-caddis and 24 trico with most wing material pulled to resemble midge. Probably the last time I will fish it until flows and temps get better. We do have a few days of rain coming up. Historically temps should still be hovering at or below 70.
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I'm a lurker and thought I'd add this to your Tulpehocken convo:
The water temps are regularly exceeding 72 degrees in the delayed harvest section and are higher down near the covered bridge. Fishing in these conditions is very harmful to the trout but you will still find idiots lined up elbow to elbow for the trico hatch. These are the same guys that will complain that the fish population is way down from previous years. Think about it! If you fish the trico on that stream and the water temps are 70-73 early in the morning, odds are a high percentage of the fish you catch and release die. It's really not that hard to figure out. If the temp on a stream reaches 70 for 2 days during a hot spell, that's one thing. If the stream is struggling to cool down to 70 in the evenings, that a totally different thing. Unless you know of springs entering a section, please stop! You are doing nothing but hurting the fishery for your own fishing pleasure. Not sure how many of the guys doing this have the mental capacity to grasp the concept.
Fishing this time of year should be confined to spring creeks, COLD tailwaters (excludes Tulpehocken and Lehigh) or small brook trout headwaters.
Thank you for correcting the brook trout post. That was bordering on absurd. You also mention that you were the only one fishing on Saturday morning. If you have an eye condition that prohibits seeing farther than 20-25', I can believe you. Otherwise, that stream is elbow to elbow every day once TCO posts: TRICO ARE ON !!
The water temps are regularly exceeding 72 degrees in the delayed harvest section and are higher down near the covered bridge. Fishing in these conditions is very harmful to the trout but you will still find idiots lined up elbow to elbow for the trico hatch. These are the same guys that will complain that the fish population is way down from previous years. Think about it! If you fish the trico on that stream and the water temps are 70-73 early in the morning, odds are a high percentage of the fish you catch and release die. It's really not that hard to figure out. If the temp on a stream reaches 70 for 2 days during a hot spell, that's one thing. If the stream is struggling to cool down to 70 in the evenings, that a totally different thing. Unless you know of springs entering a section, please stop! You are doing nothing but hurting the fishery for your own fishing pleasure. Not sure how many of the guys doing this have the mental capacity to grasp the concept.
Fishing this time of year should be confined to spring creeks, COLD tailwaters (excludes Tulpehocken and Lehigh) or small brook trout headwaters.
Thank you for correcting the brook trout post. That was bordering on absurd. You also mention that you were the only one fishing on Saturday morning. If you have an eye condition that prohibits seeing farther than 20-25', I can believe you. Otherwise, that stream is elbow to elbow every day once TCO posts: TRICO ARE ON !!
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I've seen many fish taken or have taken fish in the 19-22" class in the special regs water. It was more of a regular thing in years past but it still happens from time to time.
Frederick,
My feelings aren't just directed toward Tulpehocken fishers but all ignorant anglers that put their personal gratification ahead of well being of the fish. It applies to all waters.
Frederick,
My feelings aren't just directed toward Tulpehocken fishers but all ignorant anglers that put their personal gratification ahead of well being of the fish. It applies to all waters.
jdaddy
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Frank,
How can you proclaim to be a conservationist when you avatar promotes carp smoking Camels? You know perfectly well that Camels are no good for them there carp. It's people like you who promote Camel smoking to those Tully carp. There are better ways to curtail an invasive species than teaching them to smoke Camels.
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I don't fish anywhere that's over 72 degrees, but the tully is the last place I'd worry about.
Isn't it open to harvest now anyway? The regs are DHALO because the fish aren't really supposed to make it. Holdovers are great, but they are just a bonus. The chance of catching a wild fish in there is practically nil this time of year. I don't like killing the fish I release, but I'm not losing sleep over people fishing the tully when it's warm.
Isn't it open to harvest now anyway? The regs are DHALO because the fish aren't really supposed to make it. Holdovers are great, but they are just a bonus. The chance of catching a wild fish in there is practically nil this time of year. I don't like killing the fish I release, but I'm not losing sleep over people fishing the tully when it's warm.
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Good sir and obvious "know it all", that is clearly not a Camel. Since carp are the bottom feeding scum, you can only assume that the fish is enjoying the rich and smooth flavor of a GPC brand smoke.
You mention carp on the Tulpehocken being an issue, why? I began fishing the river when I first started as a C&R project and have continued to fish it but ONLY when the water temps permit fishing. In all of the hours I've logged on that particular water, I can't remember seeing more than a handful of carp, suckers or other "invasive species" that you mentioned. Possibly a fish identification book would assist you. The large fish you are seeing are actually holdover browns. Some reaching the 8-10 range. As they reach maturity, they under go a physiological change. Lake and sea-run trout develop a hump in the back and a pronounced kype. The larger trout on the Tulpehocken experience a similar change. Their mouth moves toward the bottom of their face and becomes very similar to a rubbery vacuum hose. They also develop dime sized scales. This makes it very easy for the novice angler, such as yourself, to confuse these large holdover fish with carp. Hope that helps you out. Tight lines, Frank.
You mention carp on the Tulpehocken being an issue, why? I began fishing the river when I first started as a C&R project and have continued to fish it but ONLY when the water temps permit fishing. In all of the hours I've logged on that particular water, I can't remember seeing more than a handful of carp, suckers or other "invasive species" that you mentioned. Possibly a fish identification book would assist you. The large fish you are seeing are actually holdover browns. Some reaching the 8-10 range. As they reach maturity, they under go a physiological change. Lake and sea-run trout develop a hump in the back and a pronounced kype. The larger trout on the Tulpehocken experience a similar change. Their mouth moves toward the bottom of their face and becomes very similar to a rubbery vacuum hose. They also develop dime sized scales. This makes it very easy for the novice angler, such as yourself, to confuse these large holdover fish with carp. Hope that helps you out. Tight lines, Frank.
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Jay,
Ya, the DHALO designation is primarily a result of the water temps and problematic hold over. Electroshock surveys this Spring indicated a 13% hold over from the Fall stocking. The odd thing here is that there are no temp issues between Fall stocking and the Spring survey. There was no harvest period between the stocking and the survey, so where did the fish go? They documented a ton of fish migration during the last survey (primary reason for rainbow v. brown stockings). Who knows? It will be interesting to see how the numbers on holdovers now that the adult only stocking program is now in effect with no fingerling stocking. Regarding taking fish, the FF culture of catch and release is definitely strong, as I rarely see anyone take and keep trout on the Tully. This is mainly because I don't see the poachers ever catching anything. LOL. I have saw a few decent fish this year and have hard quite a few reports of "the big one that got away". I know some 18" browns were directly stocked this Spring.
Frank,
I see what you did there. Very cleaver. Good point on the brand name smokes though. I have to admit I used Camel as that was my brand of poison back in the day. Have you alerted the PBFC to this metamorphosis phenomenon?
Ya, the DHALO designation is primarily a result of the water temps and problematic hold over. Electroshock surveys this Spring indicated a 13% hold over from the Fall stocking. The odd thing here is that there are no temp issues between Fall stocking and the Spring survey. There was no harvest period between the stocking and the survey, so where did the fish go? They documented a ton of fish migration during the last survey (primary reason for rainbow v. brown stockings). Who knows? It will be interesting to see how the numbers on holdovers now that the adult only stocking program is now in effect with no fingerling stocking. Regarding taking fish, the FF culture of catch and release is definitely strong, as I rarely see anyone take and keep trout on the Tully. This is mainly because I don't see the poachers ever catching anything. LOL. I have saw a few decent fish this year and have hard quite a few reports of "the big one that got away". I know some 18" browns were directly stocked this Spring.
Frank,
I see what you did there. Very cleaver. Good point on the brand name smokes though. I have to admit I used Camel as that was my brand of poison back in the day. Have you alerted the PBFC to this metamorphosis phenomenon?
