Tremendous Stream Enhancement: Spring Creek

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Over the past 2 (if I recall correctly), Spring has had some dramatic stream...enhancement isn't sufficient...re-making. What was flat-ish, fine gravel without much habitat and therefor not many fish and bad bank situations has been really, utterly reconstructed, remade. I have been a critic of stream work because so much of it DOES NOT WORK, and seems to be potempkin stream work that leaves the stream WORSE off in a few years (Little Sandy, as bad as it was, is now worse than it was before the stream work and some work pieces are not even where most of the water flows anymore?
There is some metaphor for something done half as well as it should be and making things worse. If there isn't , there shold be.
But this work on Spring was in the vein of the McCoy Dam restoration; from no habitat to lots, within the exigent parameters that piece of geography provided (This water here is really fast!) It was heavy work, deep work, large work and work that wasn't precise, intricate or detailed, except for the lunker logging along the bank. It was big rocks and large cobble, lots of it, placed with an excavator, structured to make habitat like you would seek on the other, rockier streams in PA. What is the good water on Penns? What is the good water on Big Fishing Creek? OK. Make it look or reflect that: those features. It works. I landed one of the nicest browns I've caught on Spring in quite a while where a riffle dam plunge thing went along a lunker log bank. It works. But it needs to be BIG and it needs to be able to work over time as the stream and the structures in it change. No 3" rock is going to be much trout habitat. So don't EVER put 3" rocks in trout streams unless it's part of gravel that fills in the gaps between 18" rocks.
 
There has been quite a few projects lately on Spring Creek that have greatly improved habitat for trout. Theres a stretch near Benner Spring where a small lowhead dam was removed, just upstream of the 550 bridge and Spring Creek Park. I am assuming you are referring to one of these reaches?
 
There has been quite a few projects lately on Spring Creek that have greatly improved habitat for trout. Theres a stretch near Benner Spring where a small lowhead dam was removed, just upstream of the 550 bridge and Spring Creek Park. I am assuming you are referring to one of these reaches?
No. But yes. the low head dam below The Rock was done..last year? 2 years ago? And they did a good job with habitat there , too. The 1st time I fished that reclamation project, I caught a nice brown out of it. This section is upstream from Bellefonte in a wild park section (where a lot of people dump their old deer carcass). The other one is upstream of 550 right at the 1st parking lot. But yes, over the past however many years, there have been a lot of truly transformative projects. THey put in many huge rock deflectors above The Rock. They could do a lot in The Canyon along the Old Hatchery raceways, below the Benner section. There is a lot of water here running right along the trail (easy equipment access) that lacks any big structure. No deep water. No big rocks. Just a long riffle with some habitat along the banks where a log has an underwashed deeper pocket. But you can't fish there because there's a TREE laying over it!
 
It would be interesting if they did before and after electrofishing on these types of projects.
 
It would be interesting if they did before and after electrofishing on these types of projects.
I happened to be at the work site when the project upstream of 550 was getting done. The engineer was there and went over the work in detail. And yes, they survey the crap out of the stream: just about everything; invertibrates, too, I believe. Further, to that point, in my last 2 jaunts, I caught fish around structure that otherwise was flat pea gravel. So no fish there.
 
There has been quite a few projects lately on Spring Creek that have greatly improved habitat for trout. Theres a stretch near Benner Spring where a small lowhead dam was removed, just upstream of the 550 bridge and Spring Creek Park. I am assuming you are referring to one of these reaches?
much more than that.
And erosion control on Slab Cabin/Thompson run between Millbrook Marsh and slab cabin park. Not much habitat work other than the structures on those two.
Clearwater and others have been doing riparian work in the very upper reaches of Spring and Cedar run too over the last 5 or so years.
Remember, some projects are focused bank stabilization and erosion control. there are multiple reasons why, but often money (and grant source) and time.
 
I concur with Post #4. The McCoy Dam pool was shallow but waist deep in most places before the dam removal. The weeds provided cover for the trout, and the water was cold. Big fish were plentiful there. It did not become overcrowded until the 1990s. The fish size then did decrease.

But the McCoy Dam -- and the West Penn Dam -- provided challenging, enjoyable fly-fishing for big trout. I am sad that they were removed in the name of "stream enhancement." Their removal did no such thing.
 
Interesting post

Be nice to see if the project(s) have before and after pics posted somewhere
 
Interesting post

Be nice to see if the project(s) have before and after pics posted somewhere
some can be found here https://www.springcreektu.org/stream-projects-1



web searches might find more
 
Is the local TU chapter leading the Spring Creek improvements?
i believe they usually partner with other agencies. This is described in the links. If its like the activiites and projects of LJRA, the org identifies sites, assists in grant applications and provide some volunteers. Generally, the distribution of labor/activity is project specific
 
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