Tea Creek, 7/15/25

[KylePruitt]

Air temp 88
Water temp 58

Running clear and relatively high for this time of year. 19 wild browns caught, 1 stocked rainbow that likely came up from the Kish. Fish holding under the banks and in highly oxygenated riffles and pockets. Eating small nymphs and happy to take terrestrials on the surface.

Kish and Honey are both chocolate shakes after the recent rains. Both have been relatively cool though. Low 60s in the morning and high 60s in the afternoon. Given the good temps and waterflow since May, the wild fish I've caught are very fat and are fighting very hard. They also seem to be spread out and actively feeding as if it were Spring.

 

[Swattie87]

Good stuff. Been a slow fishing year for me, work stuff and kids, but this Summer should produce a bumper crop of biomass for next year.

 

[Wild_Trouter]

Air temp 88
Water temp 58

Running clear and relatively high for this time of year. 19 wild browns caught, 1 stocked rainbow that likely came up from the Kish. Fish holding under the banks and in highly oxygenated riffles and pockets. Eating small nymphs and happy to take terrestrials on the surface.

Kish and Honey are both chocolate shakes after the recent rains. Both have been relatively cool though. Low 60s in the morning and high 60s in the afternoon. Given the good temps and waterflow since May, the wild fish I've caught are very fat and are fighting very hard. They also seem to be spread out and actively feeding as if it were Spring.

Just curious...did you fish Tea up from the mouth of Kish or did you fish upstream of traffic light in Reedsville?

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Good stuff. Been a slow fishing year for me, work stuff and kids, but this Summer should produce a bumper crop of biomass for next year.

That could be true.
I'm not sure about the limestoners though.

They generally don't rely on rain and have cool temps. A lot of the famous one have decent habitat , minus spring.

It's possible these rains change the habitat for the worse, but it could be a nothing burger or change them for the better too.

 

[KylePruitt]

Just curious...did you fish Tea up from the mouth of Kish or did you fish upstream of traffic light in Reedsville?

I fished from the first bridge on the Tea all the way up through those deeper meadow holes where the duck pond used to be. I was pretty overheated by that point so I took a swim in one of the holes. Highly recommended.

 

[jifigz]

Coming from a local (and you are pretty local too if your in J County), please note that it is "Kish" and not "the Kish."

19 browns out of Tea is a heckuva good day. Nice job.

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[keirns4]

Coming from a local (and you are pretty local too if your in J County), please note that it is "Kish" and not "the Kish."

19 browns out of Tea is a heckuva good day. Nice job.

And that's all I have to say about that.

For someone that gets bent out of shape for putting the word "the" in front of Kish should go back and read their novel about fishing in Colorado. Please count how many times you put the word "the" in front of streams, rivers, towns, forests that don't belong there. BTW, I love to fish "The Kish". And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Broodstock]

You put The Honey in The Tea and then you drink it.

Then you get back to talking about fishing.

That’s all I have to say about that. 😉

 

[jifigz]

For someone that gets bent out of shape for putting the word "the" in front of Kish should go back and read their novel about fishing in Colorado. Please count how many times you put the word "the" in front of streams, rivers, towns, forests that don't belong there. BTW, I love to fish "The Kish". And that's all I have to say about that.

Relax a little. I don't care if people put a "the" in front of it. I'm messing around. But I do find it odd because I've never heard anyone say "the Kish" before throughout my life. It's all of you non-Miff Co people.

Back to the CO trip, the only steam I should have put "the" in front of is the White River. None of the rest sound right. But I'm fixing to go count em. I'll be back. 🤪🤪😘

 

[jifigz]

Please count how many times you put the word "the" in front of streams, rivers, towns, forests that don't belong there.

I counted. Using the hotkeys for the find feature, I listed exactly two waterways with "the" in front: the Eagle River and the White River. I would have added "the" to that cuttie stream that I did not list, though, and now that I think about it, there seems to be a pretty standardized rule in my mind on when to add "the" and when not to.

And just like that, I have given those excellent sleuthers all of the tips they need to find that cutthroat stream.

Saying something like "I arrived in the town of Bloomsburg is not the same. The same would be this: "I dined in the Bloomsburg." That's clearly wrong.

There does seem to be a blurred line on using definite articles with bodies of water. We always use them for oceans and major rivers, but we never used them for lakes, waterfalls, or, in my experience and opinion, smaller bodies of waters such as streams, runs, brooks, creeks, etc. Not using the article "the" for an ocean or a river is 100% wrong. We would never say something like this: "I was fishing Delaware River the other day." We, as native speakers, would hopefully instantly recognize that that person made a mistake. With streams, I will say that the speaker/writer probably has some leeway, but to me, I think it sounds very out of place.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

I counted. Using the hotkeys for the find feature, I listed exactly two waterways with "the" in front: the Eagle River and the White River. I would have added "the" to that cuttie stream that I did not list, though, and now that I think about it, there seems to be a pretty standardized rule in my mind on when to add "the" and when not to.

And just like that, I have given those excellent sleuthers all of the tips they need to find that cutthroat stream.

Saying something like "I arrived in the town of Bloomsburg is not the same. The same would be this: "I dined in the Bloomsburg." That's clearly wrong.

There does seem to be a blurred line on using definite articles with bodies of water. We always use them for oceans and major rivers, but we never used them for lakes, waterfalls, or, in my experience and opinion, smaller bodies of waters such as streams, runs, brooks, creeks, etc. Not using the article "the" for an ocean or a river is 100% wrong. We would never say something like this: "I was fishing Delaware River the other day." We, as native speakers, would hopefully instantly recognize that that person made a mistake. With streams, I will say that the speaker/writer probably has some leeway, but to me, I think it sounds very out of place.

This entire conversation reminds me when someone asks where did you fish the best reply is:

🤐

 

[keirns4]

You put The Honey in The Tea and then you drink it.

Then you get back to talking about fishing.

That’s all I have to say about that. 😉

And then drink it on The Little J.

 

[dryflyguy]

Putting "the" in from of stream names has come up before on here.
It seems that rivers just about always have "the" before hand, and creeks dont.

Our best known waterways are always said thus:
"the" Delaware and "the"Little Juanita rivers
But have never heard Penns, Fishing, and Spring creeks referenced with "the"

 

[troutbert]

I listed exactly two waterways with "the" in front: the Eagle River and the White River. I would have added "the" to that cuttie stream that I did not list, though, and now that I think about it, there seems to be a pretty standardized rule in my mind on when to add "the" and when not to.

And just like that, I have given those excellent sleuthers all of the tips they need to find that cutthroat stream.

Saying something like "I arrived in the town of Bloomsburg is not the same. The same would be this: "I dined in the Bloomsburg." That's clearly wrong.

There does seem to be a blurred line on using definite articles with bodies of water. We always use them for oceans and major rivers, but we never used them for lakes, waterfalls, or, in my experience and opinion, smaller bodies of waters such as streams, runs, brooks, creeks, etc. Not using the article "the" for an ocean or a river is 100% wrong. We would never say something like this: "I was fishing Delaware River the other day." We, as native speakers, would hopefully instantly recognize that that person made a mistake. With streams, I will say that the speaker/writer probably has some leeway, but to me, I think it sounds very out of place.

That is very interesting. You are correct that the usage is different for creeks vs rivers.

But why?

 

[sixfootfenwick]

I don't know, I think it's proper in some cases.

I fished the West Branch of Pine Creek.
I fished West Branch of Pine Creek.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

On another forum or page, this was also a discussion.
I found this quote interesting:

"At least in the U.S., it’s likely due to the fact that rivers cross multiple states. The rivers are labeled as to where the mouth is; the Mississippi, Ohio and Arkansas, for instance, do this. A colorado river means any river in the State of Colorado; The Colorado River is a specific stream"

 

[dudemanspecial]

jifigz you should take another trip out west, you sound too eager to get back to the classroom.

 

[troutbert]

On another forum or page, this was also a discussion.
I found this quote interesting:

"At least in the U.S., it’s likely due to the fact that rivers cross multiple states. The rivers are labeled as to where the mouth is; the Mississippi, Ohio and Arkansas, for instance, do this. A colorado river means any river in the State of Colorado; The Colorado River is a specific stream"

But "the" is applied to all rivers, not just the small percentage with state names.

I'm pretty sure the same usage is applied in England. It probably pre-dates the founding of the US.

 

[KylePruitt]

I'll call it "Kish" instead of "The Kish", but it doesn't really matter because I'm going to keep pulling the wild browns out of it 3 times a week, knowwhatimsayin'?

 

[dudemanspecial]

I'll call it "Kish" instead of "The Kish", but it doesn't really matter because I'm going to keep pulling the wild browns out of it 3 times a week, knowwhatimsayin'?

I hope you put them back.