Porcupine Run, Venango Co, 7-15-18

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I wouldn't have posted about this stream, but 9 days ago there were 4 vehicles parked at the bridge coupled with the number of times this year that people all over PA have told me they have been fishing this stream and I never mention it....it's clearly well known enough to post here without burning a spot for anyone. Plus I'm sure a number of people who do fish it will appreciate the update. Hopefully this doesn't spin out of control like the first Hell Run stream report back in 2009 (that poor soul paved the way).

Time Fished: 1215pm - 445pm

Weather Conditions: 86 degrees, Sunny and Clear

Water Conditions: Very Clear, Low Flow, 59-60 degrees, depending on where I checked. I didn't fish on July 7 but when I looked off the bridge the flow 8 days ago appeared to be double what is was on this day.. July 15.

Insects: I never saw more than one fly at a time, but I saw many caddis, a few yellow sallies and several of what looked like a very small mayfly.


I walked quite a ways upstream and worked up quite sweat before cutting over the hill. For the first time in my life I fished a small stream without tying on a dry fly at least part of the day. I went totally sub-surface with attractor patterns and natural nymph patterns. I was fishing downstream and, despite wearing camouflage and trying my best to keep a low profile as I approached each likely looking spot, overall I had very few strikes. The holes about the size of a truck hood were not holding even the smaller fish. The water in the larger holes was moving as slow as molasses and despite sinking a fly off a rock overhang and sunken shelves there wasn't much charging out to grab it.

I caught a brown, brook and 2 rainbows and long distance released 3 others. The brook was the biggest at about 8" and I was sure to get him back in the water quickly. I saw no decent sized fish.

I saw boot tracks from the big bend down to the cabins. The tracks were made either that morning or the day before. I skipped the vast majority of the water around the camps but visited with some of the owners while I was there. Eventually I ended up on Hemlock so I could check the temp (64 degrees upstream of where Porcupine came in). I fished just a few holes on Hemlock and had 2 strikes and one was a chub.

Porcupine is a very nice stream. Many of the best spots protect the fish with limbs and logs. I'd say you should surely wait until the water level comes back up and be sure to release your fish quickly. Despite the cold water temps the fish did not dart off like I would have expected. The ones I photo, I set my rod down and let the fish rest while I pull out the camera and quickly get the picture and release it. Based on what I saw you may want to reserve that for when air temps fall back to the 70s or below or don't do it at all. I rarely take pictures of fish so I don't really know the norm, but it didn't seem right.

I didn't see any birds of prey but there were mink tracks all over.



 

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Porcupine is a good stream, but levels need to be up for the fishing to be what I consider good. Hemlock has a much better volume of water, so it's prolly a better bet with low water conditions.

I've fished those two streams maybe 5 or 6 times, but I've only seen another vehicle at the bridge on one occasion. That's a good thing after you drive for 7 hours to fish a stream. I only go there during the week, never a weekend. Prospector, congrats on your wild trifecta!
 
I would suspect (hope) that if there were 4 cars they were either cabin overflow parking or taking advantage of the campsites close to the mouth. Even four really good friends would know better than to cram in there at the same time. Plus, being the 4th and all..

Beautiful fish. And nice report!
 
No they were all fishing. I came past the first time at 1030 on July 7 and there were 2 trucks, a Jeep and a car. I swung back thru at about 345 and 2 guys were breaking down rods and heading home in the pickup that was in the “overflow” spot. So the last guys to get there were the last ones to leave and they confirmed that. They also said that one of the guys in another vehicle fished Hemlock that day.
 
sarce wrote:
Seems pretty well known based on the replies. We've got one person saying they've driven across the state to fish it, and 4 other users indicating they are familiar with it. This is all from one report on one website in the members-only section.

In general, when mentioning a stream triggers a bunch of other people to start throwing out spot burning accusations...it's laughable to say that spot was still a secret if all the commenters also knew about it.

It's a listed Class A by the PFBC plus it has been in the news recently....good news, BTW.

http://www.alliednews.com/news/local_news/officials-tour-state-funded-trout-habitat-restoration-project/article_cc2ac5ba-d5b5-585c-b35e-44e98ef78f35.html

 
Nice!
 
wildtrout2 wrote:
That's a good thing after you drive for 7 hours to fish a stream. I only go there during the week, never a weekend. Prospector, congrats on your wild trifecta!

7 hour drive?!?!?!?!?

To fish Porcupine?!?!?!??!

I can't imagine how many better streams you'd pass up to get there on a 7 hour drive.
 
PennKev wrote:

7 hour drive?!?!?!?!?

To fish Porcupine?!?!?!??!

I can't imagine how many better streams you'd pass up to get there on a 7 hour drive.

While definitely true, sometimes it's more about fishing different places. The Hemlock/Porcupine watershed has some relatively unique qualities for PA, so I get going out of your way to fish it.

I've fished it once. It fished reasonably well, but it wasn't a home run. Still, I'd probably be willing to go out of my way to fish it again given its uniqueness.
 
I’m curious, what unique features does the Porcupine have that makes it so attractive? A 7 hour trip is just way too long for me to drive to fish. I’d rather fly less hours to the Midwest/West and fish.
 
JasonC wrote:
I’m curious, what unique features does the Porcupine have that makes it so attractive? A 7 hour trip is just way too long for me to drive to fish. I’d rather fly less hours to the Midwest/West and fish.

You can catch all three species of wild trout in one creek, particularly wild rainbows.
 
Certainly worth a long drive then! 5 hours for me. Would definitely do a couple nights stay with a few full days worth of fishing for sure.
 
JasonC wrote:
Certainly worth a long drive then! 5 hours for me. Would definitely do a couple nights stay with a few full days worth of fishing for sure.

Not sure if serious. Detecting sarcasm.
 
FWIW - Porcupine is a 1.5 hour drive from my home.
I fished it once - about 5 years ago.
And haven't been back since
 
Not sarcasm, I’d love to fish a stream with the ability to produce all 3 species of wild trout. I’m sure there are others nearby worth fishing as well. I’d spend a few days to make the 5 hour drive worth it.
 
JasonC wrote:
Not sarcasm, I’d love to fish a stream with the ability to produce all 3 species of wild trout. I’m sure there are others nearby worth fishing as well. I’d spend a few days to make the 5 hour drive worth it.

In that case it would probably be best to make it just one stop on a larger tour of the area.
 
Good advice, thanks! Not making that trip in the near future but it’s certainly on my radar now.
 
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