Penns Creek, Centre Co., 6/27/2009

JackM

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FPC:

Arrived with Greg at The Feathered Hook about 8:05 AM and a fellow was sitting out front. We opened the window to ask if the shop was open (not supposed to be until 9:00 AM). The guy asked what we needed and I told him a couple bamboo rods and Hardy reels (we really just needed some flies and tippet). Jim was kind enough to interrupt his preparing breakfast to help us get supplied and on our way. He seemed upset about the rod and reel ruse, however.

On the water below Coburn about 8:30. The sun was already high and there were only a few clouds in the air. We fished until about 1:00 P.M and only saw a few odd rises, one of which produced a skunk-saving 6 inch brownie for me. The water was stained from overnight rains and higher than normal for this time of year according to USGS, but was very fishable and wadable. The water temperature just before noon was right at 60 degrees F. The air temps went from about 60 upon arrival to a high in the mid-eighties and returning to about where they started by nightfall.

We saw some cahills in the AM, a few slate drakes, but most plentiful were the paralep "Jenny" spinners dancing above every riffle, but none hitting the water. We marvelled at how closely the FH ties we bought matched the natural, and I surmised that it was very likely that trout never take the spinner, but so long as the tie was so accurate, the fly-buyer would likely feel it was money well-spent.

We took a long break in Millheim and returned to the water about 4:30 P.M. The Jennies must have fallen while we were gone or went back to the trees, because the clouds of them were gone. The water clarity was improving and we were seeing more cahills, slates and some of the paraleps. We beat the water for another few hours, seeing only a sporadic rise or two along the banks. I had a take on a cahill parachute on a target riser of unknown but substantial heft, but was so thoroughly desperate that I panicked and broke the tippet knot, leaving the trout with the fly and about 24 inches.

Around 7:00 PM, the hatches picked up intensity and trout started rising steadily, but not a huge numbers. Greg and I were close enough to call out to one another what we were using and what they were ignoring. After an hour of only a few "splashy refusals," I noted we had just another hour or so to figure out what they were taking. We never did. I think with hindsight they were probably taking the blue quill emergers, though this is only a guess. Greg somehow managed to avoid the skunk by getting a small brown that bested my skunk-saver from the morning by a couple inches.

As a dry fly enthusiast and hatch-lover, I concluded I had done "fairly," whereas Greg was of the opinion that both he and I had done "poorly." I'm going to be leaving Penns alone for a while-- not because of rising water temperatures that are likely, but because the trout there are so definitively stupid.
 
Well, Jack pretty much covered the days events. I have just a few things to add.

1) The Jenny is a Blue Quill Spinner (Paraleptophlebia)

2) It felt like we were just hopelessly flailing the water most of the day. I think these fish just find a lie and rest between flurries of amazing aquatic insect activity. During the periodic spectacles, the trout gorge themselves by keying in on a stage or type of insect that nearby flyfishers are ill prepared to imitate.

3) I did observe an older gentleman in a riffle catching fish seemingly "at will" for a half hour or so just after we arrived. He was casting quartering dowstream and catching fish on the swing. I don't know if he was fishing wets or streamers, but he sure looked to know just what the fish were doing. Maybe he was fishing Isonychia soft hackles? He left by late morning leaving the stream to Jack and I for the unproductive middle of the day.

4) I spent a good deal of the early part of the day nymphing without success. I tried the Isonychia nymphs that I had made a special point of buying at the Featherd Hook that morning. I tried a Perla Stone, a Walt's worm, and a Green Caddis Pupa. In hindsight maybe I should have tried a small Pheasant Tail as a Blue Quill nymph imitation.

I really did have a nice day on the water. The Penns gorge is beautiful and I should never complain about sunny 80 degree days when I'm outside with a friend and not working. I'm just a little miffed that the fish mostly got the better of me (us) yesterday.
 
Greg

I'm just a little niffed that the fish mostly got the better of me (us)
yesterday.

Don't feel to bad Penns has done that to all of us! I will get my chance to try Penns this week, hope I can do a little better!

FPC

PaulG
 
Did either of you try terrestials?
When I see very sporadic rises like that at this time of year, I can usually get hits on a well placed ant or beetle
 
I have had "relatively" good days on paralep (jenny) spinners on Penns. By "relatively good", I mean the fish rose steadily for 20 minutes or so, in places, when the spinners hit the water, I think in the riffles is where they fall. Heads of pools produced maybe an average of 3 fish per person in that 20 minutes.

Then when its over, you promptly leave the stream and fish somewhere else until the evening hatches start again, because all you can do is flail the water in the afternoon.
 
as someone keeps pointing out to no avail
36 inch tippets-
three foot gives substantially more shock absorber than 24".
Try it-you will like it
skunk savers beware-no escape.🙂
 
PCray,

So the Jennies do fall during mid-day?

Looks like Jack and I were tipping a few beers when we should have been dialing 867-5309.

We were gone from about 2-4 PM and returned to find no more Jennies in the air.


DryFlyGuy,

I fished a beatle with a wet ant underneath for at least an hour without so much as a look from the fish.
 
albatross wrote:


Looks like Jack and I were tipping a few beers when we should have been dialing 867-5309.

Now that is funny!!!
 
Well, I can't say I have loads of experience with them, only hit it right 2 or 3 times on Penns and never purposely went after it, only found it a pleasant surprise once in a while. But my fishing to the fall was always late morning; but still before noon. Like any other spinner fall, many things can end it before it ever starts, wind, heavy rain, etc.

Spring Creek has paraleps too, but they actually call them paraleps there. I always felt it was a significant source of misidentification of early trico falls. Every time I got a hot tip, around this time, that the tricos were on early this year, I'd go and see only paraleps.

I do get the impression the actual fall is spotty, they don't fall everywhere, pretty much just riffles, and probably only certain riffles at that. Find a place where they're dancing heavy, and fish the head of that hole, or the tail of that riffle. I do recall there was waiting and watching, you'd see them inching closer and closer to the water, then when they hit it was like "someone threw a switch", just like it is with the trico's. But it wasn't quite as intense, and unfortunately the switch gets thrown the other way when it ends, whereas with tricos you can fish eddies and such and carry it out a bit.

The times I found fish rising to it was also always in low water, not sure if they even bother when its up a bit.

That translucent body is weird, isn't it?
 
Yeah, I can see how they could be mistaken for a trico - except that they are approaching a size 16...

The translucent body is rather distinctive on these flies. Here is the FH imitation...
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Yeah, I can see how they could be mistaken for a trico - except that they are approaching a size 16

Well, in their defense, if trico's were on Penns they'd probably be an 18 or 20, lol. On Penns, you always have to add a size or two to every mayfly in your box, drives me nuts, I need a separate Penns Creek box.

I think the paraleps are about an 18-20 on Spring Creek, whereas tricos are more like a 24. The sources of those "tips" are 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hand originating from an unknowledgable fisherman, and they do act a lot like tricos.
 
PaulG wrote
Don't feel to bad Penns has done that to all of us! I will get my chance to try Penns this week, hope I can do a little better!

FPC

Maybe you can learn from our mistake and give Jenny a call mid-day.

FPC
 
I don't think I've ever really seen the fish rise to the jenny spinners either
I've watched them many mornings on the little j when suddenly, their gone, but nothing happened.
I don't even pay much attention to them anymore
 
I've had very similar experiences in Penns around this time of year. I have never seen the paraleps spinner clouds actually descend and produce good fishing, but presumably they have to fall sometime. Interestingly, friends of mine have had success with soft-hackles at this time of year and time of day in that same area, which is consistent with what you saw that "older gentleman" doing. I think they're taking them for crane flies. I seem to recall orange or yellow being the color for the soft hackles.
 
Was on Penns about two miles below you during the morning. It seemed we could see the water clearing a bit while we were out. Water marks on the rocks indicated about a six inch drop from recent overnight high. Had similar results until I tied on a small streamer. Caught two browns about a foot long and then the rest of the party tied on similar streamers and each at least caught one. In the evening we worked the Weikert pool. We landed a few on BWOs. Not much of a hatch with only sporadic rises. Half of which were chubs.
 
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