Night fishing with a euro stick: talk to me about your success.

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Do any of you have success night fishing a euro rod with regularity?

Mind sharing your approach, leader/line configuration and fly selection for targeting trout at night?

I’ll be near and have the opportunity to fish some wild trout water that I know well for the first time during the summer. It’s something I’ve wanted to experience for several years now but the stars have not aligned with the appropriate time of the year to best be successful.

I’ve listened to and read a few things from the likes Joe Humphreys and Dom from Troutbitten, but I thought this more interactive way of discussing with you all would be much more helpful to me.

I’ll have a streamer rod as well.

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you share. Feel free to message me directly as well.
 
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What type of flies will you be using?

Choose the type of rod best for casting that type of fly.

Most people use larger, bulkier flies when fishing at night.
 
Are you talking about using a euro rod to cast fly line or a mono rig? I don't think many are using mono rigs at night.

Fly line and short, stout leaders are how I night fish regardless of tactic. I've never been tempted to nymph at night, though.
 
What type of flies will you be using?

Choose the type of rod best for casting that type of fly.

Most people use larger, bulkier flies when fishing at night.
That’s part of my question.

Reading that it’s best to go bigger at night, I intend to use my 10’9” 3wt, if employing a euro rod.

Should the nymphs be weighted, or lightly weighted? What are pattern examples?

It seems like most who fish at night with streamers are fishing top water patterns (mouse), is it best to have flies higher in the water column?

I’ve never targeted trout at night.
 
Are you talking about using a euro rod to cast fly line or a mono rig? I don't think many are using mono rigs at night.

Fly line and short, stout leaders are how I night fish regardless of tactic. I've never been tempted to nymph at night, though.
Yeah, I was thinking of using a euro rod and euro line with a stouter, shorter, mono rig.

It seems to be pretty taboo, but I’m just curious to see if anyone does it with any degree of success.

If not, maybe it’s in my best interest to leave the euro rod and head out with a 6wt and floating line.
 
Do any of you have success night fishing a euro rod with regularity?

Mind sharing your approach, leader/line configuration and fly selection for targeting trout at night?

I’ll be near and have the opportunity to fish some wild trout water that I know well for the first time during the summer. It’s something I’ve wanted to experience for several years now but the stars have not aligned with the appropriate time of the year to best be successful.

I’ve listened to and read a few things from the likes Joe Humphreys and Dom from Troutbitten, but I thought this more interactive way of discussing with you all would be much more helpful to me.

I’ll have a streamer rod as well.

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you share. Feel free to message me directly as well.

I am lost on the whole concept of this approach.

Euro is based on being able to hook set on minute changes in the leader (sighter) during the drift. Not being able to see this turns it into 100% feel, as their will be no sound on a nymph take.

Most that enjoy night fishing are doing so on the surface with either a pusher dry fly or mouse pattern that moves the water and triggers bigger fish that would not ordinarily feed top side during the day.

But this is what makes fly fishing fun - give it a go and report back!
 
I fish two wet flies in sz 4 and 6. Also have used wooly buggers of same size with success. The flies aren’t weighted; whether or not they are near the bottom or high in the water column is determined mostly by the current, although in some currents I mend. My one fishing partner fishes the same rig, except he uses three flies and a sinking line. Rods are 8.5 ft 6 wts. The flies and the bugger can be dead drifted, retrieved as slowly as possible or retrieved with short jerks or just occasional jerks. All three of these methods produce fish and some work better than others on specific nights.

The leader and fly rigs are very stout with no portion less than 10 lb test. We tend to “horse” the fish a bit at night, which allows them less time to get into snags and is better for the fish, especially the larger fish, if we are not going to harvest them. Takes are felt, as with spinning equipment, and not seen, although when the wet fly is up near the surface you will occasionally see a splash associated with the take that you feel. Takes are generally not subtle.

I inadvertently nymphed in complete darkness with a pheasant-tail nymph one night on the Little J. I was nymphing with success in the evening and my fishing partner was spin fishing. Evening turned into night and the fish kept hitting, so we kept fishing. Fortunately, I had a lighter colored fly line that would show the takes because I could not see the leader.

Learn to wade into and along the full length of a pool using your feet as feelers for larger rocks, extra smooth rocks, logs, branches, and other natural and man-made debris and obstructions that could trip you up. I assume that there’s probably a learning curve involved in wading at night, but having spent a career electrofishing in water where I couldn’t see the bottom, wading at night came pretty naturally. Also preventing falls is the fact that we fish very slowly and thoroughly. We don’t cover much ground at a given spot, but we fish two or three spots per night on a given water. Also, the vast majority of the time we’re standing ankle deep to knee deep in water, as the fish are roaming in shallow and deeper water awayfrom shore and close to shore.

As far as I know the fish may hit all night. The latest that I typically stay out is 2 to 3AM. Just like daytime fishing though, some nights are very productive, some are mediocre, and some are duds. My worst night ever was zero hits, while my partner landed five wild browns, all 15-19” in about 4 hrs.

Some guys don’t like to fish with a bright moon, saying that it is not as productive as darker nights. Additionally, my one partner starts as soon as darkness falls, and the other often waits until about an hour after dark to start. Some individuals recommend checking/scouting out a prospective fishing spot in daylight for obstructions, snags, water depth, etc.

Lastly, head lamps are kept off while fishing and approaching the water. If absolutely necessary to turn on the light, we do so along shore facing away from the water if possible. We also try to use a red light to accomplish a task rather than the head lamp’s white light if possible. Obviously, tangles occasionally occur that require a light to correct, but that heavy, stiff Mason brand leader material that we use prevents a lot of tangles that would occur with regular mono and it’s very forgiving when you occasionallyhave a fly get stuck on the bottom. I can usually get the fly loose and I have yet to lose a rig.
 
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I fish two wet flies in sz 4 and 6. Also have used wooly buggers of same size with success. The flies aren’t weighted; whether or not they are near the bottom or high in the water column is determined mostly by the current, although in some currents I mend. My one fishing partner fishes the same rig, except he uses three flies and a sinking line. Rods are 8.5 ft 6 wts. The flies and the bugger can be dead drifted, retrieved as slowly as possible or retrieved with short jerks or just occasional jerks. All three of these methods produce fish and some work better than others on specific nights.

The leader and fly rigs are very stout with no portion less than 10 lb test. We tend to “horse” the fish a bit at night, which allows them less time to get into snags and is better for the fish, especially the larger fish, if we are not going to harvest them. Takes are felt, as with spinning equipment, and not seen, although when the wet fly is up near the surface you will occasionally see a splash associated with the take that you feel. Takes are generally not subtle.

I inadvertently nymphed in complete darkness with a pheasant-tail nymph one night on the Little J. I was nymphing with success in the evening and my fishing partner was spin fishing. Evening turned into night and the fish kept hitting, so we kept fishing. Fortunately, I had a lighter colored fly line that would show the takes because I could not see the leader.

Learn to wade into and along the full length of a pool using your feet as feelers for larger rocks, extra smooth rocks, logs, branches, and other natural and man-made debris and obstructions that could trip you up. I assume that there’s probably a learning curve involved in wading at night, but having spent a career electrofishing in water where I couldn’t see the bottom, wading at night came pretty naturally. Also preventing falls is the fact that we fish very slowly and thoroughly. We don’t cover much ground at a given spot, but we fish two or three spots per night on a given water. Also, the vast majority of the time we’re standing ankle deep to knee deep in water, as the fish are roaming in shallow and deeper water awayfrom shore and close to shore.

As far as I know the fish may hit all night. The latest that I typically stay out is 2 to 3AM. Just like daytime fishing though, some nights are very productive, some are mediocre, and some are duds. My worst night ever was zero hits, while my partner landed five wild browns, all 15-19” in about 4 hrs.

Some guys don’t like to fish with a bright moon, saying that it is not as productive as darker nights. Additionally, my one partner starts as soon as darkness falls, and the other often waits until about an hour after dark to start. Some individuals recommend checking/scouting out a prospective fishing spot in daylight for obstructions, snags, water depth, etc.

Lastly, head lamps are kept off while fishing and approaching the water. If absolutely necessary to turn on the light, we do so along shore facing away from the water if possible. We also try to use a red light to accomplish a task rather than the head lamp’s white light if possible. Obviously, tangles occasionally occur that require a light to correct, but that heavy, stiff Mason brand leader material that we use prevents a lot of tangles that would occur with regular mono and it’s very forgiving when you occasionallyhave a fly get stuck on the bottom. I can usually get the fly loose and I have yet to lose a rig.
Thank you for the thoughtful response. This is very helpful.

When you are fishing multiple flies, are you fishing them in line or off droppers above a point fly?
 
I had a couple spots I'd fish at night in, but like everyone else it was wetflies and it was down and across. The places I'd goto were all places I was very familar with during the day, so my feet knew the various things they'd bump into.

I also had places where lights from houses or other sources would reflect across the water a bit, so I could also sort of "watch" the line sometimes as well as feel.

I can't imagine trying to do it exclusively by sound or touch if you were nymphing. That's for people who are better than me, I suppose.
 
Basically, Euro is "feeling the take". However, a nymph dragging along the bottom would feel like a take everytime it "hits the bottom, stones etc" Seen so many lifiting the rod ad nauseum while Euro nymphing. Oros and other similar indicators work much better imo.
 
Thank you for the thoughtful response. This is very helpful.

When you are fishing multiple flies, are you fishing them in line or off droppers above a point fly?
Off droppers, again with stiff mono to prevent tangles. You may want to even “snell” the flies if you are tying them as was done with wets in the “old days.” This adds length to the dropper and allows for more readily changing flies in the dark since you can then do it loop to loop. In contrast to what I said about the leaders, the snells may be 8 lb test.

I would add that we usually fish across and down, sometimes slightly casting upstream as part of the across and down, but even occasionally fully upstream and retrieving back w/ the current. On rare occasions you may find a need to cast downstream and slowly retrieve back. That does produce fish so I would not avoid it because I thought it would be totally fruitless. After all, even when casting across the fly eventually may end up directly downstream from your position with those slow retrieves, yet trout are still caught with substantial frequency, even in a near shore foot of water below you.
 
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... I inadvertently nymphed in complete darkness with a pheasant-tail nymph one night on the Little J. I was nymphing with success in the evening and my fishing partner was spin fishing. Evening turned into night and the fish kept hitting, so we kept fishing. Fortunately, I had a lighter colored fly line that would show the takes because I could not see the leader...

In early spring and when fishing smallmouth during the White Fly hatch, I am usually still fishing well after dark by choice.

For that reason, many moons ago I purchased Rio fly lines in their long discontinued Classic series (standard tapers, true-to-weight WF's & DT's) called the "Lumilux" that glowed in the dark. By day it was a white fly line (my favorite color) and in darkness it glowed just enough to make it VERY visible.

If I fished well after dark, I might recharge it with a flashlight, but if there was low or no ambient light where I was fishing it usually wasn't necessary.

When broken-in they also become incredibly supple and shoot & perform excellently I still have a few in rotation at least 20 years old and a few NIB. They are STILL my favorite plastic fly line of all time because they checked so many boxes for me.
 
Question for Euro "stickers" wishing to fish at night...

Would a florescent line or sighter used in combination with a UV headlamp be an option? Other fisherman have been doing it for decades....
 
There is at least one product out that you dip your fly or line with a fluorescence and activate it with a light for visibility.

Probably most effective in the river around TMI.
 
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