Need Your Help - A New USGS Streams Gauge Page
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Hey, I need your help. The USGS removed many of their old legacy data and websites for the USGS Stream Gauges. There are new web tools, but none of them work with this forum very easily. I have found some ways to add these stream gauge data points to Paflyfish. Actually, I hope to even create some better views than the USGS provided. As you can see below, I cannot only add data that we had in the old state table but new information from other sources like the National Weather Service.
This is the first start of this project and need your help, please. Once we get this paired down, I can begin to get a little more creative and make something useful for us all.
There are some 360+ USGS Stream Gauges across the state. I really think this is way too many. Some are at locations none of us really fish, and others are redundant for some rivers and streams. Trimming the number to something close to 150 would be great. It would make it easier to read and technically faster to load.
I have already removed about 100 gauge locations and need your help. Please help me identify those stream gauges we really don’t need. An example would be on the Delaware River. What are the best one or two that make sense to keep? Even other smaller streams may have there or six gauges, and we may only need one?
To help, please reply to this thread and let me know what stream gauges you think we can remove. Simply add the stream name and station #. The station # will be important so I get the correct location. You will see I created new links from the station # and name to the USGS Gauge and Google Map to help identify.
Letting me know a steam gauge you like is nice, but I’m already keeping the streams listed. I really need to know which ones you think are redundant and unnecessary and I can delete. I have them segregated into the six regions of Pennsylvania. This is another little different approach than the USGS.
Once completed, I will be creating and making a new, easy-to-use page giving us all access to the new and improved USGS Stream Gauge Pennsylvania Stream Page.
Thank you,
Dave
This is the first start of this project and need your help, please. Once we get this paired down, I can begin to get a little more creative and make something useful for us all.
There are some 360+ USGS Stream Gauges across the state. I really think this is way too many. Some are at locations none of us really fish, and others are redundant for some rivers and streams. Trimming the number to something close to 150 would be great. It would make it easier to read and technically faster to load.
I have already removed about 100 gauge locations and need your help. Please help me identify those stream gauges we really don’t need. An example would be on the Delaware River. What are the best one or two that make sense to keep? Even other smaller streams may have there or six gauges, and we may only need one?
To help, please reply to this thread and let me know what stream gauges you think we can remove. Simply add the stream name and station #. The station # will be important so I get the correct location. You will see I created new links from the station # and name to the USGS Gauge and Google Map to help identify.
Letting me know a steam gauge you like is nice, but I’m already keeping the streams listed. I really need to know which ones you think are redundant and unnecessary and I can delete. I have them segregated into the six regions of Pennsylvania. This is another little different approach than the USGS.
Once completed, I will be creating and making a new, easy-to-use page giving us all access to the new and improved USGS Stream Gauge Pennsylvania Stream Page.
Thank you,
Dave
dudemanspecial
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I don't think anyone here is gonna come here to check on these 2:
03084800 Thompson Run at Turtle Creek
03084698 Turtle Creek at Wilmerding
03084800 Thompson Run at Turtle Creek
03084698 Turtle Creek at Wilmerding
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Dave,
I’m not seeing the Delaware River at Riegelsville and it has more utility than the next one upstream, the Delaware River at Philipsburg 01446995. Riegelsville shows what’s going on in the river once it receives the influence of the Lehigh River, which is a pretty big influence. It’s a great gauge for shad fishing in the 50 mile stretch above Trenton.
Additionally, I don’t know how many people would utilize the Tulpehocken Ck at Bernville 01470779. I use it to check inflow vs outflow, but the typical angler wouldn’t.
Mike
I’m not seeing the Delaware River at Riegelsville and it has more utility than the next one upstream, the Delaware River at Philipsburg 01446995. Riegelsville shows what’s going on in the river once it receives the influence of the Lehigh River, which is a pretty big influence. It’s a great gauge for shad fishing in the 50 mile stretch above Trenton.
Additionally, I don’t know how many people would utilize the Tulpehocken Ck at Bernville 01470779. I use it to check inflow vs outflow, but the typical angler wouldn’t.
Mike
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Bamboozle
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Here's one that can go for sure although how I wish things were different...
014755456 Naylor Creek at Upper Darby, PA.
First off, it's Naylors Run or Naylors Run Creek, not Naylors Creek...
As a kid I spent hours playing in it, floating down it on old cement mixing tubs, collecting snails & salamanders, but NOBODY fished it because it was full of debris and impacted by the Havertown Super Fund Site on its headwaters.
In addition the majority of it runs in enclosed storm sewers and concrete canals on it's way to Cobbs Crreek in Philadelphia.
I would also venture to guess this site on Darby Creek is of little value:
01475553 Darby Creek at 84th St Bridge at Eastwick,PA
What do you think about Darby, Mike??
014755456 Naylor Creek at Upper Darby, PA.
First off, it's Naylors Run or Naylors Run Creek, not Naylors Creek...
As a kid I spent hours playing in it, floating down it on old cement mixing tubs, collecting snails & salamanders, but NOBODY fished it because it was full of debris and impacted by the Havertown Super Fund Site on its headwaters.
In addition the majority of it runs in enclosed storm sewers and concrete canals on it's way to Cobbs Crreek in Philadelphia.
I would also venture to guess this site on Darby Creek is of little value:
01475553 Darby Creek at 84th St Bridge at Eastwick,PA
What do you think about Darby, Mike??
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TimMurphy
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Dear Dave,
You could probably drop the upstream Delaware River gauges above Port Jervis NY too. Most people check the USGS NY gauges for Catskill conditions on the East Branch, West Branch, and Mainstem. And no one would miss the Delaware at Chester PA.
Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
You could probably drop the upstream Delaware River gauges above Port Jervis NY too. Most people check the USGS NY gauges for Catskill conditions on the East Branch, West Branch, and Mainstem. And no one would miss the Delaware at Chester PA.
Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
tomgamber
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I think these are Ryan Hall's homewaters. 😜
tomgamber
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Seriously though, would it be more helpful if members picked the ones they didn't want to go away?
As you suggest, delete Darby Ck 01475553
It’s tidal there and just above or near the upstream boundary of John Heinz NWR.
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gfenlikestolosepasswords
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I presume you're building that with some sort built in tools for whatever you use to host this so probably not gonna be an option but can I offer two quality of life suggestions?
Being able to close down the groups so I don't have to sort through 4 regions to find the one around me and, if possible, to create a group of "favourites" that are only the ones I check off or mark?
Being able to close down the groups so I don't have to sort through 4 regions to find the one around me and, if possible, to create a group of "favourites" that are only the ones I check off or mark?
sarce
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No to deleting the Brandywine below Downingtown. Extremely popular float access point, plus it has water temp. There have got to be 100 less useful ones.
falcon
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Sites with water temps are important. Many sites dont have or discontinued temp monitoring.
Bamboozle
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Speaking of temps, a suggestion for PAFF would be to have water temps where available in Fahrenheit (°F) to match the air temps.
Save the Celsius (°C) values for CAFF (Canada Flyfish), 😉
Save the Celsius (°C) values for CAFF (Canada Flyfish), 😉
Thanks, trying to move from 261 sites to ~150. Would love if you are able to offer a a site we don't need in the list.
I will be deleting posts once I get through making adjustments and locking this thread up shortly after I hear about those locations. As much as I would like, I will be unable to make this a discussion. Very much focused on the sites for now.
It any of these cases, I will need to eliminate multiple stations on a single named stream or river.
I will be deleting posts once I get through making adjustments and locking this thread up shortly after I hear about those locations. As much as I would like, I will be unable to make this a discussion. Very much focused on the sites for now.
It any of these cases, I will need to eliminate multiple stations on a single named stream or river.
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Go for it Edison.
