Cabin Location

cdogedoger wrote:
1/2 acre lot on the pine creek in the old Pine Creek Valley Campgroundis listed for $185,000.

I guess I saw that coming. All my childhood years growing up I hated how developed/posted the area was getting, and now the land where I sat and pondered this is up for sale and will probably soon be posted. I thought it was bought by a nature conservancy? I guess everything has its price. Quite sad.

Boyer
 
Dear George,

I'm sure the pricing is all relative. That cornfield along the Delaware is worth about $ 300.00 - $ 500.00 an acre as a corn field. Five acre recreational lots at $ 89,000.00 seem like a bargain when compared to central NJ but you have no utilities and no services and you'd have $ 150,000.00 into it easy with a well and sand mound septic and electric service.

To give you an idea about the real value of real estate in upstate NY I sold a 10 year old 3 bedroom, 3 full bath finished walk-out basement ranch that was 12 years old in 2001. It had central a/c, an oversized 2 car garage, a stocked pond, and it was riverfront but out of the flood plain on the Susquehanna only 25 minutes from Deposit, NY. Editied to add - It sat on 6 acres. I got $ 86,000.00 for the house and it needed no work at all. That was $ 3000.00 less than I paid for it in 1997 but I had to sell it because I relocated for a job.

Dear cdog,

How about that house in Cedar Run, the stone and cedar one for $ 800,000.00 down from $ 895,000.00. It's right on the flood plain and has no gas service and no central a/c and it's 25 years old. You could build a nicer larger house for well under $ 200,000.00 turn key, I know because I've been in that house I know people who have rented it.

You're right though, someone will buy it and soon enough the Pine Creek Valley will be ruined by a Starbucks and a bagel shop and a beauty salon. When money get's it in it's head that it wants to ruin everything it always does, just look at the West Bronx, I mean Monroe County. :-D

Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
 
TimMurphy wrote:
Dear tbear,

If I were you I'd look for a cabin on the Neshaminy Creek! :-D

Seriously, another option besides renting is buying a nice used travel trailer. You can generally put one in a campground year-round for a modest fee and you have the option to move it at your leisure if you decide to try another area.

Don't overlook buying a home in some town close to fishing and using it as a "cabin." You can buy a house in Renovo for less than you pay for a good used car and you are within an hour of Pine Creek, Kettle Creek, Centre County, Young Woman's Creek and ton of little jump across creeks. Just a thought.

Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂

I have a cabin for sale right by the Neshaminy. In fact you can walk to the area that is stocked. Of course the water is 80 degrees by end of May.

I currently have a cabin (real cabin) that is in Union County (just east of Center) that is about halfway between White Deer and Penns. I'd say there are two areas of the state that top my list. Center County area and Potter/Tioga County area. Each has a number of quality streams that fish well throughout the year.
 
The Volkswagon ``hippy van'' or bus was the best cabin ever built.
Fish where your heart took you at anytime of year.
Letort,Penn or Pine,they were all mine whenever I wanted them.Same in my Montana years.
I would never build near anyone river because the minute you do you will find another favorite,if you are a trout bum.
Fickle we are.lol
 
Just found this one.

http://www.homes.com/Content/ListingDetail.cfm?&PropId=47590380

It's been a private cabin for years, so I guess there is no net land loss from this, I just hope whoever buys it is as nice as the people that own it now. Jay, if you read this, this is the house across from the trib mouth we hit at the jam that had a wooden bear statue on the porch. I hope the bear comes with the cabin, It's become part of the scenery. That kinda makes me wish I had a spare half mil or so.

Boyer
 
Tim-

Thanks. My dream country residence would have some acerage for the dog to run around on. Enough to have a friend up to shoot an occasional wayward deer (30-40 acres minimum), and be in proximity to some good fishing. I agree with lots of folks here that being right on the stream in not important to me, overprices it, and degrades the river. Funny, those of us in the fishing community that purport to "love the streams the most" seem to some extent guilty of ruining them by building right on the.

As much as I love the upper Delaware river, somewhere in Centre county with a number of good streams nearby would suit me best. That is about a 3.5 hour drive, but I am lucky to have a very flexible work schedule, and 4-7 days off at a time are normal, spreading the driving time over more than a 2 day weekend.

Thanks to whoever started this thread!
 
I remember exactly which one you are talking about.

Man, what I'd give to be born 30 years ago so I could own one of these things now.

Guess I gotta find my own little secluded paradise. I ain't tellin any of y'all about it either, especially if you are from the city! (I understand I'm from the city, but I'm a special case)
 
That cabin is right by the 1/2 acre for $185,000. That is a nice cabin but a little out of my league. Matt, did you guys have much luck fishing Naval Run. Back when I used to chuck bait, I used to fish the pine right where Naval Run dumps in. Hiked back the trail that follows Naval Run, but never fished it.


John
 
Wonder if there is cable modem service there?

My company is now promoting work from home. Once my son graduates HS next year I may look into buying a cabin and working from there. They don't have service where my current cabin is so I'd have to find another spot. (Plus I don't think the wife will go for the outhouse even if I put up new curtains.)
 
Hmm... including RE taxes and insurance, this seems do-able at about $2500/month. Nightly rental of $300 seems reasonable. So an average of 10 rental days per month, leaves $500/mo. to perform routine maintenance and cleaning. One could make all the payments out of rental fees, break even and use the depreciation to partially offset taxable profits. You can still use the cabin for a reasonable period of time throughout the year without losing the tax benefits and 30 years later, you own the property free and clear.

Anyone else in? I'm thinking an opening offer of $301,000.00 to kick things off.
 
How about that house in Cedar Run, the stone and cedar one for $ 800,000.00 down from $ 895,000.00. It's right on the flood plain and has no gas service and no central a/c and it's 25 years old. You could build a nicer larger house for well under $ 200,000.00 turn key, I know because I've been in that house I know people who have rented it.

Good point about the floodplains. If you are looking for a cabin, be sure that it is not in the floodplain. If it is in the floodplain it WILL be flooded. That's why they call it the floodplain.

When you look at a place in dry weather you might not think about it. Many people are not aware of floodplain vs non-floodplain land.

It may inconceivable that that the stream could rise "way up here." But if it's floodplain, the stream will rise up there.

On average, streams go over their banks and onto their floodplains about once every 1.5 years. This is includes smaller floods that flood only parts of the floodplain. (Hydrology lesson for today.)

You can expect a biggie that causes serious damage about once every 10 years, on average.

Many people like to be near the stream, and lots of those streamside cabins are in the floodplain, and they get flooded frequently.

Don't do it. Get a place that is on high ground. You have a better view of the floods from up there.
 
Here's a member's cabin with hunting/fishing/snowmobiling leases & purchase options near kettle creek. It's a nice but no frills place.

http://www.paflyfish.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=3306&forum=14&post_id=30103#forumpost30103

I think the Slate Run Tackle shop is still for sale. Maybe it's time for a life change.
 
Bought my place 2 acres and house for under 100,000...plus I'm surrounded by state land and game lands..the neighbors own 400 acres that allow us to hunt and trap on it... :-D
 
Oh yea S.E pa to my place anywhere from 3 to 4 hour drive...depending on traffic, lots of cheap places up here...
 
I think the Slate Run Tackle shop is still for sale. Maybe it's time for a life change.

Ahh, but at $1.4 that might just be slightly out of my range, not that a half mil would be chump change either.:lol:

Boyer
 
cdogedoger wrote:
That cabin is right by the 1/2 acre for $185,000. That is a nice cabin but a little out of my league. Matt, did you guys have much luck fishing Naval Run. Back when I used to chuck bait, I used to fish the pine right where Naval Run dumps in. Hiked back the trail that follows Naval Run, but never fished it.
John


I haven't hit it in a few years, but it seems to dry up a bit more than some of the other creeks in the area, which puts it low on my wild trout radar. The fish from my avatar was sitting about 15 feet up from the mouth trying to catch his breath, having been evidently handled poorly prior to my arrival, but I think he came from Pine. I doubt he made it, but he went at least 14 and had a bit of girth to him. I actually caught the biggest brown of my life from that hole several years back while drinking beer and chucking crawlers. I got about 35 minutes of the fight on video, although I'da broken him off early in the fight if I didn't think he was a carp right up until he surfaced toward the end. I still regret that I didn't get any still shots of him, but the video's fun to watch from time to time.

Boyer
 
Here is a very interesting investment.
http://www.cbur.com/Foringer1.html
http://www.cbur.com/Foringer3.htm
John
 
About five years ago Paul G called me at work and told me about a camper with a permanent cabin built on it in Hemlock Acres near Coburn. I called the woman who was selling within five minutes and bought it two weeks later. One of the best things I ever did, never any regrets, it is just a perfect situation. It’s a great location, both for fishing opportunities and relatively isolated within the campground, and safe from vandals. One hundred miles away, it usually takes me about 2 hours and 15 minutes of easy driving to get there. I have access to it year round.

John
 
More pics...
 
And some Jam pics...
 
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