Tabasco-Joe
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Two reasons come to mind. Some people think stocked trout are easier to catch. Some people think more trout equals easier catches.
Poll - Do You Support The PFBC Stocking Over Class A Streams?
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caddisflyer
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I think the loss of access sometimes happens because when the state stops stocking the entitled landowner feels they got screwed because their friends and family can no longer enjoy catching the stocked fish and so they shut down the property.
wildtrout2
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So, granting the PFBC permission to stock on private land is basically a quid pro quo. 😉
That comment apparently includes a lot (not all) of strictly C&R wild trout anglers too. “Think” is the operative word. One does not need to have wild trout populations at their max density for a given water in order to have good fishing.
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The_Sasquatch
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Yeah. But that's a loss of access for everyone. So to say fly fishermen are pushing the State to (again...) uphold ITS OWN POLICY just to keep the spinner guys off the water so that we can have the stream all to ourselves, as was the accusation, still doesn't hold up.
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As a reminder, wild trout in a pool behave similarly to a herd of horses, and a pack of dogs, and lots of other forms of life.
An "Alpha" (as is today's often used term) is constantly determined within the pool.
The dominant trout get the best place to rest and feed, depending on what food is coming down the flow.
The large trout get the best places to barely move. Often with chins behind benthic rocks, laying in the low pressure places.
Minimize the energy used in order to survive on the energy of food available 24/7/365.
The smaller trout move around elsewhere.
They really can not be raised in raceways.
Stocked trout almost always swim and side-by-side with no apparent recognition of an Alpha.
They use muscles all the time. They get fed regularly to build the muscle, which increases the flesh and a great reduction in time needed to produce GMO fillets.
Their behavior causes wild trout to constantly use their energy to chase strocked trout out of their domain.
The wild trout can't survive without the food balance. They will die.
An "Alpha" (as is today's often used term) is constantly determined within the pool.
The dominant trout get the best place to rest and feed, depending on what food is coming down the flow.
The large trout get the best places to barely move. Often with chins behind benthic rocks, laying in the low pressure places.
Minimize the energy used in order to survive on the energy of food available 24/7/365.
The smaller trout move around elsewhere.
They really can not be raised in raceways.
Stocked trout almost always swim and side-by-side with no apparent recognition of an Alpha.
They use muscles all the time. They get fed regularly to build the muscle, which increases the flesh and a great reduction in time needed to produce GMO fillets.
Their behavior causes wild trout to constantly use their energy to chase strocked trout out of their domain.
The wild trout can't survive without the food balance. They will die.
FinFurFeather
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salvelinus
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Where does one comment? Link?
Glad to hear you interested. I have been communicating with the PFBC over the last month on the proposal and comment period. I'm working on a post on the best ways to make a response. There are some specific ways they will except a comment, otherwise they will not be recognized.
The quick answer is an email or a snail mail, but I'm trying to confirm the details. My plans are to get this out next week.
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Hey, I just posted an article about the PFBC Proposal - Special Fishing Regulations; Miscellaneous Special Regulations [55 Pa.B. 6541]. - This is a proposal to restock rainbow trout on a section of Freeman Run.
We have had a lot of discussions on the topic of stocking over Class A Wild Trout Streams. This is our opportunity to voice our opposition. Please read over Paflyfish Call to Action: Join the Fight for Wild Trout, send in your comment and I look forward you to CC'ing me on your message.
We have had a lot of discussions on the topic of stocking over Class A Wild Trout Streams. This is our opportunity to voice our opposition. Please read over Paflyfish Call to Action: Join the Fight for Wild Trout, send in your comment and I look forward you to CC'ing me on your message.
nd1001
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Dave, great writeup. Thanks for linking the email address at the bottom of your post - I sent in my comments and encourage other board members to do the same.
FinFurFeather
New member
Great overview and direction for action.
I have got a few CC's already. As I have said many have vocalized their displeasure with the PFBC on stocking over Class A waters. Now is your time to take action.
GANGGREEN
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I would encourage everyone to send their comments to the PFBC. Obviously, your comments are likely to mirror the comments of many of the rest of us, but they need to know that this is NOT a popular proposal with sportsmen or even with the locals (I've seen it suggested that the proposal is to make the locals happy and MOST of the locals are either ambiguous about the issue or stand on the side of the wild trout, of "the science" and of the PFBC's mandate to manage for the resource first and foremost). I sent my comments, and we should absolutely overwhelm them with the idea that we will never accept them ignoring their own mandates and policies.
albatross
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All,
I emailed the commissioners and copied my state senator and our webmaster.
I encourage you all to read the call to action and consider writing an email or letter. Copy DKile@PaFlyfish.com so Dave can get a feel for our collective impact on this issue. This is a way for us to leverage collective action on issues we mostly agree about!
Greg
I emailed the commissioners and copied my state senator and our webmaster.
I encourage you all to read the call to action and consider writing an email or letter. Copy DKile@PaFlyfish.com so Dave can get a feel for our collective impact on this issue. This is a way for us to leverage collective action on issues we mostly agree about!
Greg
Thanks Alby for getting that out and sharing here too!
The_Sasquatch
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as a non-PA resident now, is it appropriate for me to make my opinion known to the PAFC? I still buy a license and trout stamp every year...
Why not? Plus, you were a PA resident, and you have a lot of history fishing PA waters, and you still care about PA waters. Voice your concern. You're now the "tourist angler," and that shows it's not only residents and locals that care
If you are paying for a license you are a customer. Your license entitles your voice to be heard too. .02
The_Sasquatch
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A tourist in my home state. That stung a little!
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