The good, the bad, and the sucky; then Simms Riprap Shoe!

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I'm not sure about anybody else, but I'm out of my waders and wet wading as soon as I can for as late in the year as I can stand. That being the case I've been on a quest the last few years to find the perfect wading shoe/sandal in and out of the water. Footwear that is durable; comfortable; lite wait; quick drying; has good traction on all surfaces; and keeps debris out. Something that can handle miles of the trail; negotiate steep terrain; get wet; and do it all again.

Keep in mind I'm not rich, so I didn't just get a pair of shoes and toss them the next week if I didn't like them. I wore most of them out before getting a new pair. Therefore they've all been through the paces so to speak.

First was Teva sandals. Comfortable; great traction; quickest drying of course; but an open toe sucks!!

Second was Keen. SUCK, SUCK , SUCK!!! I was sick of the open toe, so this was the catalyst for change. Keen had a beefy toe cap, so it seemed like a no brainer. After the first pair fell apart at the seems within 2 months I sent them back for a credit. This same story unfolded 4 times with 4 different models of shoes. The longest any pair lasted was 3 months (which the sole separated); the shortest 3 weeks. The worst traction EVER!! Their souls are down right dangerous. Especially after they get wet. Bottom line is they are the worst excuse for a outdoor trail/water shoe ever made!

Next was Merrell. I've worn their Chameleon line for 12 years and as soon as they released the Cyclone I jumped on it. Somehow the best shoe I've ever worn produced a bastard offspring??!! The Vibram sole was hard as a rock; even though it's supposed to be the same rubber as the chameleons. It's not! They had all sorts of terrible pressure points, and gave me blisters to hell and back. They were a torture device! I returned them no questions asked for a full refund(customer service was great).

Now ask me why I didn't go with Simms in the first place? I mean I've had the same waders and boots now for 6 year! Anyhow I saw the riprap shoe, and I gave them a call. I spoke with a guy there that wore the same size shoe as me and he had nothing but praise for them. (of course he does work for them) Either way I had nothing to loose.

From the first moment I put them on my feet they have been exactly what I've been looking for all along. I've had them since April. Hiked many miles; wear them on a daily basis as shoes; and of course in and out of the water all day. They are way comfortable, lite, and dry in a reasonable period of time. The fully enclosed mesh design is surprisingly durable and keeps out 90% of debris.(you're bound to get a small pebble or two) The Vibram Stealth is second to none! I have a confidence that I have never had before in and out of the water jumping from slick rock, to deadfall, to moss, and back on the trail. As a matter of fact it's come a long way since the first series of Simms boots with the Vibram Stealth which I still wear. Needless to say; I have never been happier with a water shoe.

I truly believe these are the end all be all of water shoes. I know that might seem like a bold statement, but they were built right for the task at hand. I can only hope for Simms sake that the white water community discovers these too. If you find yourself in the same situation I was in go for it! The are the JAM!
 
Your problem was really quite simple, you were using apples when you wanted oranges.

Teva - open toed. Well, duh, that sucks.
Keen - Hiking boots, not wading boots
Merrell - hiking boots, not wading boots
Simms - The ONLY boot that was made for what you want.

You wanted a wading boot/shoe that was good for hiking. That's very different than a hiking boot. Now, Simms makes good stuff, and I'm glad you got a boot that you liked. But in no way did you compare them to anything that's a competitor here. It's apples and oranges.

If you want an honest comparison, it seems you like the low top wading boot style. Best comparison to the Riprap would be, say, the Chota Middle Fork, Korkers Hyjack, Cabelas Gold Medal, etc.
 
Simms knows fishing.
After a season of wearing the Simms Rip-Rap shoe, I agree.
It is the best pair of shoes that I have worn for wet wading.
 
Just a heads up - these are 30% off at TCO right now. Definitely worth it.
 
I'm sold. And thanks for the link klingy - just got me some.
 
$99.95 on sale for $69.97. Plus tax and shipping they're around $80.

Edit: Sold out in size 11... Sh!t!
 
Ok Hakeem Olajuwon, you might be in luck then... :lol:

I did get a courteous email explaining that only the granite is on sale, as they're discontinuing that color. Goin' fast, get 'em while they're hot... I'd call ahead just to make sure.
 
Kabutt wrote:
Ok Hakeem Olajuwon, you might be in luck then... :lol:

I did get a courteous email explaining that only the granite is on sale, as they're discontinuing that color. Goin' fast, get 'em while they're hot... I'd call ahead just to make sure.

I'm going to pick on you just a little. When you slip and fall on your back color doesn't mean anything. Also one year the new grippy sole is great.... the next year not so. I say spend your money on a rod and footwear first. Reel, waders later. I also say don't be shy to challenge the manufacturer. My Son fished with the Team USA youth team and had some nice gear sponsered as part of the team. Some of the sponsers initial gear was great,really great and grippy but one had sole issues with stiching. They nicely upgraded but the new soles put him on his back. I'm not sure who tries out new equipment but it seems like they don't pick out people that really fish. It was ugly. It was like an old cow let out in spring.

Not everyone gets free gear. This overall wasn't free when I look back on it..but the information is worth while. Take it or leave it.
 
wetnet wrote:
Kabutt wrote:
Ok Hakeem Olajuwon, you might be in luck then... :lol:

I did get a courteous email explaining that only the granite is on sale, as they're discontinuing that color. Goin' fast, get 'em while they're hot... I'd call ahead just to make sure.

I'm going to pick on you just a little.....

I don't get it...? I pretty much agree with everything you said in your post. I don't believe I ever said anything contrary, did I?
 
i jumped on the tco sale, and ordered a pair of 11.5s.
received them this afternoon. it will be a week or so till i can back out to the creek, but the shoes look to be winners.
i'm going to add some of the simms cleats before getting them wet.
 
I got my size elsewhere, but still on sale. Used them hard 3 or 4 times so far - they're holding up nicely.
 
I've got a pair of Korkers that have the interchangable sole, they are light weight and durable, used with wading socks, neoprene they are terrific.
Now I'm going to speak out about wading shoes. I know a lot of guys aren;t made of money, neither am I, but using keds,or sneakers is not the first option for wading unless your a small kid. Open toed shoes will only cause you foot problems. A good wading boot in the right size is the best option, if you do it right, with the neoprene sock, you can use the same show that you use with waders.
For extra light weight Orvis has some nice stuff. I use a wading shoe that looks like a nike sneaker, but has a wading sole, when it's wet it is not any heavier than a nike. They have korers now and I like their stuff, you can;t beat the Orvis warranty.
http://www.orvis.com/store/product_directory_tnail.aspx?dir_id=758&group_id=11059&cat_id=5421&subcat_id=10664
 
So far I'm very happy with the Simms Ripraps for wet wading, but I followed that link Chaz and I really like the Korkers Chrome. Definitely considering them.
 
this was the first outing with the simms, and i'm completely sold. way better than the korker shoes they are replacing.
they are super lite weight, like a good pair of running shoes that are meant to worn in the creek. they do a fantastic job of keeping peddles and stones out of them. i cleated mine with the simms cleats, but i'm not totally sure that was required.
all in all i'm very pleased with them.
 
TCO is sold out of most sizes, I wanted these (but on sale) so I did a LOT of searching, if you're looking, there are sizes 10-13 on sale, check here:
http://southholstonriverflyshop.com/reports/

Look at post from August 13. His paypal is acting funny so easier to call,

Rod Champion
South Holston River Fly Shop
423-878-2822

They come out to $76.95 shipped. I ordered mine this morning, nice guy.

 
I was able to find a size 11 at Red Truck Fly Fishing. These things are awesome!! so glad this board turned me onto the closeout..
 
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