Cicada question

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So I've not yet had a chance to hit the Cicadas this year and I'm considering a trip up to the State College area this weekend (July 5th). I know the Cicadas are winding down now, and I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts as to whether or not the cicada fishing will last through the weekend? It's a four hour drive for me, and I probably won't make it unless I'm likely to be able to fish cicadas.

Thanks in advance for any insights.
 
I'm sure the trout will still look up for a big splash for quite a while yet. But hey, its Spring Creek, lots of fish and many ways to catch them. I say go for it and good luck.
 
VTPA Angler I don't have any firsthand experience with the cicadas per se, however, I have fished for trout for many years with Japanese beetle imitations. Seems like once they actually get on large terrestrial bugs, they will continue to take imitations of that particular insect long after the main emergence is over. I have had some great beetle days in October and even Nov., long after the majority of the naturals are gone. I would think it would be the same for cicadas.
 
i was fishing up at spring creek today. i talked to a few guys and basically they all said the same thing. the cicadas are winding down. although there are still alot of them around, the numbers are going down daily and rather fast. you should be able to get one more week out of them. i am heading up next monday. (july 7). the trout will be looking for them for awhile.
 
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My guess would be you would still catch a fair amount on cicadas.
I live about 30 minutes away and they are still screeching in the trees here.

My oppinion is that is takes the fish about a week to get used to eating those large bugs after they start landing on the water, so you probably get a good week of fishing even after the cicadas are gone. Besides, Spring Creek trout love terrestrials; foam hoppers in the pocket water alone the edge of the stream is killer.
 
I just spent five days fishing central PA streams, primarily Penn's, and did not take or see one trout taken on a cicada. (I did have some refusals. Later someone suggested adding a dropper but I didn't get back to try it.) I fished Spring one morning. I watched hundreds floating downstream and only saw one natural taken and that after about five misses by a number of trout. This one was flopping it's wings. Dead ones floating through the same area caused no reaction. Most guys that I talked to on Penn's did not have success with cicadas. A few others I talked to said cicada flies were working better on Spring than Penn's.

That said a guy caught a 25 inch brown trout at Weikert Saturday on a cicada.

There are enough on the hills above both Penn's and Spring that I would chance another weekend. I wasn't at Fishing Creek but I did go along the ridge further east and heard cicadas.

Some of the tiers at one shop I visit were trying to come up with a pattern with the wings out. Sort of like a cicada spinner. (Maybe that's what Redrocks fly represents?)



For what it's worth I measured 62 degrees on Penn's Saturday morning above Cherry Run. Measured 72 at Weikert Friday evening.
 
Helpful hints:

Fish mid-morning, after the cicadas have started buzzing, but before the fish get too full with them to care, or twice-shy from being hooked already.

To find a place to fish cicadas, listen for the loudest buzz in the trees. I fished several areas, from above Cherry Run on out to Coburn. Where the loudest buzz was, the fish were- either there, or just downstream.

If there's a wind, try to find the bank on the windward side. Makes it easier to cast those big flies.

A dead drift works best, although a little twitch can help. When these flies drag, they drag bad. I did a lot of paying out line to keep them dead drifting downstream, but I advise against doing too much of that. Beyond about 40 feet, my hookup success was low, and the flies make a wake like a speedboat when retrieved for a new cast. Uncool.

No need to target risers, although personally I saw quite a few last week, even in midday (cloudy days; mostly not rising to cicadas, but it became obvious that they were happy to see them.)

Fish searching the water, along the shaded bank. Where you think there should be a nice trout, there probably is.

I did much better in the pools than in the fast water. Even the long, slow pools, as long as there was a bit of current to drift the fly.

Use the best imitation you have- I think that when there was lack of interest in my imitation, it was because it was too small! I had a couple of cicadas land on me- honest, they're nearly the size of hummingbirds. (And up-close, their chirp is as loud as a wind-up alarm clock...staring at you the whole time...) Really, you don't want to have to throw a fly that big, but I think the best imitation would be 1 3/4"-2", tied along a 2x or 3x #2 or #4 hook. The best imitations should be like huge black sponge rubber beetles with a strip of burnt orange along the hook on the bottom, and ribbed with orange thread. Body tied fat, like 3/4" wide. Orange/yellow krystal flash for the wings, if you have it. Splay some to the sides, so it lays down in the water, like real spent cicada wings. Add some black rubber legs, for a bit of motion on the drift.

Wet imitations should work too, tied with chenille, wool, yarn, etc. But nothing beat watching a big trout pounce on one of these on top.

Use a shorter leader, and a stouter tippet. It sounds weird, but you're basically throwing a bass bug at them. And the fish that have keyed on cicadas all seem to be, um, sizable. I lost a lot of hookups, and I think it was mostly due to either having too much line paid out on a downstream drift, or to using too long and fine a tippet, which put too much coiled slack in my presentation, and too much stretch on the strike. I was using a standard 9' 4X leader at first. An 18" tippet of 2X or 3X is a better idea. I lost the largest trout I've ever hooked when he ran across a rock shoal and frayed my 4X tippet after several minutes of battle. (Actually, that one went for a #8 orange Stimulator, in the evening; there are some big stoneflies hatching out of Penn's right now, too.)

If all that advice makes me sound like Mr. Trout Expert, believe me, I'm not. I also fished the evening rise at Penn's several times- and every night I was there, there was one- and I got shut out every time. Whatever I was selling, they weren't buying. Just like always.
 
I would try and hit the Little J. I have had great success with the Cicada over the last two weeks. Word is that Penns doesn't have the same nubers as the J and Spring. You should be good for another week. Like MKern said. The fish should still be looking up for another week post Cicada. I had the most success fishing the rips at the top of pools, fast current and tail outs. Good luck.
 
The Little J's a big river. Is there a stretch or are there stretches that have been better with the Cicadas than others? I usually fish in the gorge.
 
You can fish the gorge or any other spot on the C & R section. They are taking Cicadas just about anywhere. I had the best day so far in the gorge. Try and get there early and find some good water. By mid-morning you should hear the Cicadas start singing. Also, if you have a drowned Cicada pattern I would bring them. You will have some areas without any takes on the dry. When this happens switch to the drowned version. Some very large fish are being taken sub-surface on drowned cicadas.
 
I would like to add something....
A lot of the cicadas I see on teh water have already been attacked by birds and are missing their abdomen, but are still alive and flopping around the stream.

I don't know if this would have something to do with teh trout refusing a lot of bugs.

Also, someone mentioned "spent-winged" style. Hille's had a couple customers last week that requested that they be tied like that. The shop owner was tying the wings all crooked using orange krystal flash. I personally like wasp wing, very similar texture wise.
 
I have fished them 2 days over the last week.

Once on Spring and once the J. Both days were very good- used the cicada pattern with 1x all day-both days. Did'nt find any problems with the heavy leader. As long as you were drag free you are good to go. Most of my success was fishing to banks near overhanging limbs and trees in shade just like a terrestrial. The big fly seemed to keep the small fish off too.

I had a thought about the refusals or missed strikes. Was it that the fly was too big, they noticed the drag? Or could it be that the fish was just trying to stun the fly and if I was patient enough it might strike again?- I never did wait. Seems that happens with bigger streamer flies, but I continued to try to set the hook.
Still landed the majority of them, just a thought. Hope you get out. Paul

Tenjed- love Europe '72
 

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You should still get some action. I was out last evening fishing the cicadia for the first time this year and did well.

For the first time ever I caught 6 different species of fish on 1 fly all within 200 yards of each other. I caught rainbows, an 8 inch largemouth, sunfish, a couple browns, then a carp and then a 10 inch crappie right at dark.

All on cicadia. Come to think of it my sun caught a perch in the same area a couple weeks back. Biggest brown last night was 16 ish,...not anything major.
 
Penns Ck has really slowed down on cicada dont really hear any at Coburn just some now at Inglby. I had good catches at Spring Ck Monday and tuesday at times would not hit then light you turnedlight switch on would hammer the cicada pattern. Some holes i caught 4-5 trout alot of refusals alot of misses was alot of fun biggest ones were about 18-20 range alot of 15-17. Were some big boys taken from Penns and Spring though is winding down will head back up for one last time next week sometime. Was fun.......................................
 
My buddy and I fished Spring Creek on Saturday (7/5) and caught about 18 between us on cicadas. The fish are still on them despite the fact that very few naturals seem to be making their way into the stream.
 
yes i hammered them monday and tuesday caught 26 combined on both days. they destroyed 3 of my flies
 
There still taking the cicadas Is still good
 
there pretty much gone still can get a few in faster water
 
Sorry can't understand why you would drive 4 hours to fish one fly, Cicada or something different but not chose to go if you couldn't catch something one on bug. Just me. Cic.............. DARN spiders. I almost fell off my chair. Big hairy one!!!!!! I wish my son would clean his room. (that's where the computer is)

Ok,again I know they only hatch so often but like I said you won't go if they aren't hitting on them?
 
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