Cheeky Fly Fishing Co. is trying to inject a dose of cool into our sport

skcuf wrote:
Looking at the reel design there are certain people who will like the new design and think it is cool and functional. However, the majority of the people who buy it are like many of those who ride sportbikes.

No, that's not the argument in this thread at all. The argument is that one guy is cashing in on chopper mystique but offering you the same JC Whitney geegaws as you could get anywhere else, but charging 2x the price because its a lifestyle they're attempting to create. One that seeks to be draped in culture and mystique, but the fine print says est. 2011.

 
"Although, I still find companies with the word spey in 'em to be irksome." LOVE THAT!

O.K. I see,, Sorry for the confusion, I just felt an under line hate and I was not really sure why? Maybe I was wrong but Names are Very tuff!. I have got this before just for the way my reels look? Prices? Some things really do not matter I guess.. I really am just a guy from Wisco doing my best to produce reel as the most affordable price I can, and making a fly reel look like a fly reel should. Not some space craft with brakes that can pull the head off a bull.? I was sick of it of all the fly reels just looking the same?. Here is the secret to my price point and is as follows,,
no sleep, produce Small scale, hand turning, hand polishing, doing all the assembly work, Material ordering, website work, sales, emails, phone. You get my point. The list never ends, and this all this saves you money.
I kick these over the coals in my reel killing box of death, in the shop, so they last in your hands.
Free Demo reels? No more laying around to give away these days. Most reels are sold out faster than I can make them.
Sorry
Tim
The Spey Company
 
No, that's not the argument in this thread at all. The argument is that one guy is cashing in on chopper mystique but offering you the same JC Whitney geegaws as you could get anywhere else, but charging 2x the price because its a lifestyle they're attempting to create. One that seeks to be draped in culture and mystique, but the fine print says est. 2011.

G, I do get where you're coming from, but how can you make this statement about them fleecing the customer with overpriced product?

Here's a reel Abel offers:
http://www.abelreels.com/super-series-quick-change.html

Same pricepoint, Made in the USA, using similar processes to what the Cheeky guys are using; CNC machining centers, hand assembled. Abel reels are made entirely in house, the Cheeky guys are subbing out the work to local machine shop, then probably assembling in house. Only real difference is the color of the anodizing and the style. And I guess the drag internals are bit different too...


So, is it just their marketing ploy that rubs you the wrong way?
I just don't see any discernable difference between the end products...now if the reels had a big Made in Taiwan stamp on the foot for the price they're asking, then I'd more than likely agree with your point, but they don't.
 
speyco wrote:
Free Demo reels? No more laying around to give away these days. Most reels are sold out faster than I can make them.

Wait, those days existed? I've got to learn to leverage this blog nonsense to profitable ends. Sweet Jebus.

Given the choice between made in Alnwick, or made in Wisco, the fact that you're one man doing exactly what you are doing, giving us classically styled and constructed reels, in a one man deal is the sort of thing I like. I don't expect you to know that, this isn't WAFlyfish.com.

Except, you know, that speyco naming thing. Although, I can over look....

tomitrout wrote:
G, I do get where you're coming from, but how can you make this statement about them fleecing the customer with overpriced product?

I believe the concept of brand and legacy were already well covered by others in this thread.

And I'll make the statement that Abel is lobbing overpriced product, too. They just have the long term ability to back it up.

I'm glad those Cheeky lads are making their crap in America, but that's still no reason to inflate the prices to stupidity level. SpeyCo has provided a tremendous counterpoint to this thread... Here's one man who came up with something in what was probably his spare time, then sat down and produces it beginning to end, including marketing. He's a brand that doesn't need an artificial BS mystique about it, its going to just form raw from the damned ether. A timeless design, produced in our time, by one man beginning to end. That's the sort of legacy, design, branding or anything else you don't get by crapping out Powerpoints, leveraging synergies, and forming paradigms. That's fishing. That's what those idiots want so despertly to crap out, but because they can't do it, they'll buy it.

It doesn't take much to push paper and have someone else produce for you. Nor does that impress me. Show me something interesting YOU can do.

Tim from speyco did it. He didn't monkey around coming up with BS and glitz, he sweated hard and produced a downright awesome toy (how about friends-and-family pricing, natural finish 3" model, please!).

Guys like McFarland, Steffan Brothers and other cats who literally roll their own glass blanks, they did it. Not satisified with what was out there, they created their own tapers and produce their own blanks in house.

Guys like Justin from Allen and Co or the dude from TJ's Bear's Den can do it by leveraging the power of Asian manufacutring for me.

Cheeky? They labricated an image then attempted to pass it off to me. They represent the acid washed jeans of fly fishing.


 
G, tired of splitting hairs w/ ya, we probably see more eye to eye than reflected in this conversation...the perceived snap/stereotypical judgements demonstrated in this thread kinda get under my skin...

It doesn't take much to push paper and have someone else produce for you. Nor does that impress me. Show me something interesting YOU can do.

doubt this is 'interesting' to this board as a whole, but if'n you're actually curious...

tomicog.blogspot.com

(yeah, I know, I should really update it more frequently....usually too busy fishin' & ridin' and then there's that damn day job always getting in the way.)
 
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Tim, you have anything on your bench that would fit a 9' boo rod? 5/6 trout rod. Seems you got a 3/4 and then up to the big 4" reels but don't see anything in this sweet spot.

Love them!
 
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