Cabin Location

Dear JF,

Remind me the next time you see me to tell you that I hate you and envy you! :-D

Regards,
Tim Murphy 🙂
 
I have a cabin in the Pine Creek Valley. Its been in the family since 1941. I've been going to my cabin for 27 years, and i must say, in the last 4 years things have made such a change up there. Places where no one ever ventured to fish i now find line and flies stuck in the trees. I stopped in for a beer at the "Manor House" in Slate Run and saw about 30 porches parked in the lot. Aparently the "Porche Club" was having there monthly luncheon there and to think i got the odd looks because i was wearing fish waders. The Pine Creek Valley is a beautiful place, but if i were to look for a cabin location i would go more remote, like someone said earlier in the thread it wont be long before a starbucks goes in up there. Too many people from Jersey and New York coming in ever since the Poconos turned into the wilderness ghetto. Property prices have gotten way out or control, and as wilderness standards go its getting over crowded. The cabin next to mine was sold 8 years ago for $38,000. Just six months ago the guy who bought it for 38 sold it to someone jerk from NYC for 103,000. And i call him a jerk because this past summer we were at my cabin the same time he was, it was 1:00am and they were blasting music, i asked him to turn it down and he told me if i didnt like it i could leave.
 
I have to wonder how the change in the mortgage market is going to impact the market for second homes. Who knows, eballat, you may have peace and quiet up there again sometime.
 
I jioned a camp 2 years ago in Tioga County. This is after years of going up that way to fish and hunt. The first year I was there about 7 or 8 times, and 07 I was up 6 times due to low water and excessive heat. I'm already planing several trips this year, but a lot depends on the weather. More rain means more trips. Less rain means fewer trips. Anyway you have to love the area and and the commitment before buying a place. Real Estate has gone up in the Northern Tier, it will go down a little due tot he credit crunch, how much remains to be seen.
As for where, you have to consider where you like fishing, where our club is there are 100's of trout streams to chose from and you would have to fish any more then once in a lifetime and wouldn't cover them all.
On the other hand if you don't like remoteness, or your wife/girlfriend doesn't like remoteness it isn't for you. We've got electricity, and no plumbing, the heat is a wood stove, this tend to keep women away.
I live in SE PA and fish those streams during the week and on weekends that I don't go north, I fish streams a little furether away. Check out SP's and SF's, they all have access to trout streams and you can camp or get cabins in SP's you can camp in SF's but you need a permit, the permit is a safety thing, the rangers need to know who's there camping in case they have to get you out for some reason, they also don't want you camping in areas where there are bear problems. I've fished over 500 different trout streams in PA and I know what I like so my choice wasn't hard, it is amazing how good fishing is sometimes in NC PA and PA in general.
And if you look at the cabin in the photo it is up on a block foundation, which indicates to me it is in the flood plain of Pine Creek.
 
Chaz wrote:
And if you look at the cabin in the photo it is up on a block foundation, which indicates to me it is in the flood plain of Pine Creek.

Chaz, that is the cabin on the downstream side of the old campground below slate run, and if memory serves me correctly, it used to be a trailer......then a different trailer......then what it is now, so, yeah flooding has been an issue. It's about 50 yards from the creek, tops, but if you have that kind of money for a camp you can probably afford the restoration after a flood. :lol:

Boyer
 
That trailer park was definitely in the floodplain. That whole place was inundated and there were trailers floating down the creek during several of the big floods. And there will be more such floods, that's for certain.

Do not ever buy a cabin or house in the floodplain. You'll regret it it you do. There are plenty of cabins around that aren't in the floodplain.
 
My camp is in elk co, just west of kane, me and two other friends built it 18 years ago, its a log cabin and we are surrounded by the ANF, its about 150 miles from home i`m the only one who ff so i go there by myself alot, the clarion , kinzua and the tionesta are close by plus many smaller streams
 
Changes are coming as far as recreational lands go.* The gas price situation hasn't impacted things yet. But as gas and heating fuel prices continue to rise, and they will, and as the real estate crisis continues to bleed middle America, I bet many people who were buying up lands for someplace to go on weekends will be stretching budgets too thin. Of course, the true wealthy will still be able to afford their escape lands, but the shrinking middle class won't. This is bound to affect price and ownership of land. Will it mean more land will fall into the hands of wealthy landowners? I don't know. But my gut tells me we are about to see some epic changes in real estate and travel in this country.


*Jack M disclaimer: Please keep in mind I have no idea what I'm talking about.

rising fish always
schrec
 
Here is one I a looking at :-o

http://www.frontiernet.net/~billkasey/index.html

I see this everyday in the PG
 
i've been considering a few acres in the catskills .

vacant land with room for a shed to store a tent etc.

one problem is,i don't have a concept of how big an acre is ! :}
 
207.8 feet by 207.8 feet. I think.

Boyer
 
JF

Glad I made the call to you...Got a great neighbor!

PaulG
 
My cabin is in the Northcentral part of the state in Tioga County just east of the Potter County line off Rt.6. Pine Creek runs right behind my cabin which sits on the top of the mountain behind Frome Acres Campground.
More wild trout streams that I'd ever be able to find or fish up there. Right up my alley for fishing.
 
After doing the camping thing for years, and exploring all parts of PA, I bought a place that sits right on the Potter/Cameron Co. border. I don't think it gets much better in PA. All the branches of the Sinnemahoning system, which is very expansive, Kettle and some others a short drive, and more wild mountain streams then I will ever get to expore in a lifetime. Surrounded by Elk and Susky State Forests. Bear, turkey, coyote, deer and Elk abound. Even some hot smallmouth spots if you know where to look. Tons of hiking spots and even a small ski mountain! Far enough so that the New York metro area folks don't bother, but close enough so I can be there by late morning casting a fly.
 
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