Best western pennsylvania brookie stream

[brookiesRfun]

tracker12,
I doubt he is making those of us who post on this forum slobs. However, there are other people who will do a search on a stream and up pops what ever stream happens to be someone's favorite.
Personally I avoid naming special streams as I enjoy small class A streams because of two things. One is there usually is no one else on the stream and 2 because the fish are wild and there are lots of them. If people who do not catch and release trout find this out they can really work over a small class A stream. If ya want to see how the average trout fisherman thinks go to a put in take out stream the first day and watch and make conversation with those who think there is no problem catching and filling their freezer with a legal limit of trout every sat and sun, then imagine 10 or even 5 of those guys on your favorite class A stream every weekend from April till June. Makes me sick to think of it.
Just my thoughts.
Greg

 

[JackM]

brookiesRfun wrote:
then imagine 10 or even 5 of those guys on your favorite class A stream every weekend from April till June. Makes me sick to think of it.

When I imagine my head exploding for no good reason as I drive to work, it makes me sick as well, but I don't actually think or worry that it will happen.

 

[brookiesRfun]

When I imagine my head exploding for no good reason as I drive to work, it makes me sick as well, but I don't actually think or worry that it will happen.[/quote]

Sarcasm aside, it is a concern.

 

[rrt]

Hey, Jack -- but, I am a "grumpy old man"!
Merry Christmas.

 

[Troutbum82]

The average put and take fisherman lacks the skills to catch spooky wild trout. I never worry about it. Everybody is so paranoid! I'm sure thousands of bait fisherman are loading up their gear right now with intentions of going on a wild trout rampage!.......please...... Give me a break. Glad to see you made it troutslammer i missed you and your ignorant posts. 🙂

 

[troutslammer]

yeah trout bum , wild browns are hard to catch any white or black rooster tail depending on the day will work ! Add traffic add IMPACT !!! Once the garbage starts flying the land is posted now carry on with your non sense cause we all know streams this has happened on yet some people don't learn from others mistakes or their own either. Dkile mentioned 175,000 people logged onto the site this year , who exactly out of the 175,000 people that have visited here are you inviting to fish your "favorite" stream !!!! wow nothing surprises me anymore

 

[Maurice]

lets cool it on the name calling.

 

[Troutbum82]

Well troutslammer i can't argue with that. You make some good points. In fact i agree with some of what you said. I just get tired of seeing people get attacked and insulted over sharing info. If people want to share let them share.

 

[pcray1231]

Minister is one I've fished often for nearly 20 years, and once upon a time, was one of my "home" streams, I still get up there once a year or so. It's a nice area and a nice day, for sure, and I enjoy it as much as any other. But as far as "best" from a fishing standpoint, I have severe doubts. I'm not sure I'd call it the best even within the Tionesta drainage, much less the county, area, or half the state. It's class C, FWIW.

I suppose a question like this might force you to define "western". If you simply mean west of the center line, then I'd suspect you'd have to look real hard at the area SW of Coudersport, NE of Clearfield. Lots of good streams in that area, I don't know em real well, but I'm guessing there's a few that put anything in the ANF or Laurel Highlands to shame.

 

[JackM]

No need to put down the Laurel Highlands. If not for the streams being over-run by bait anglers, they may rival any wild brookie freestone in the state. 😎

 

[brookiesRfun]

troutslammer wrote:
yeah trout bum , wild browns are hard to catch any white or black rooster tail depending on the day will work ! Add traffic add IMPACT !!! Once the garbage starts flying the land is posted now carry on with your non sense cause we all know streams this has happened on yet some people don't learn from others mistakes or their own either. Dkile mentioned 175,000 people logged onto the site this year , who exactly out of the 175,000 people that have visited here are you inviting to fish your "favorite" stream !!!! wow nothing surprises me anymore

troutslammer,
if ya ever want to fish some of NW pa's wild trout streams let me know.....I think we think alike. I have all of next summer free from nursing classes.
Thanks,
Greg

 

[rrt]

Troutslammer,
You are waging a losing battle, though it is worth waging. Surprisingly, I really believe Jack M. is a convert to our side!
Anyway, the more you wage the battle, the more stressed you'll become. So, hang in there.

 

[troutslammer]

not trying to start a battle or convert anyone , i just stated my opinion and someone called me out on it which is fine. someday when they show up at their favorite stream and it is posted or there is 4 other guys fishing ahead of you on a small stream then so be it. 1 rotten apple and you spoil the whole basket in time !!!!!

 

[FarmerDave]

JackM wrote:
I only know southwestern PA streams, but my very favorite is WhatdoyouthinkImaschmuck Creek. PM for GPS cooordinates. 😎

Good answer Jack. I know the stream well.

In NWPA, I'd have to say the best one is Eatshitandbarkatthemoon Run. ;-)

 

[FarmerDave]

flyfishermanj wrote:
@ Jack,

There some good trout in that stream, I once caught a 48" rainbow under the covered bridge there!!

@ Chaz,

SHHHHHHH!! There ain't no trout in there!! Just creek chubs!

JH

Yea, and they are stocked creek chubs, too.

 

[Troutbum82]

I think the biggest problem with the put and take bait crowd is their lack of education. They have a twisted view of trout in general. That does not mean they are bad people. As for the ones that litter and disrespect the fish and the environment well i hope the wardens hit them hard with fines. I just have a different approach and so far it has worked great. I have converted severeal bait fisherman into good respectful catch and release fly fisherman. Education is the key. As far as "slobs" go you will always have them in every group so there is no point in getting stressed. I do agree that some things should be kept secret i'm just not as extreme as most.

 

[FarmerDave]

Troutbum82 wrote:
The average put and take fisherman lacks the skills to catch spooky wild trout. I never worry about it.

Anyone who thinks the native brook trout are hard to catch is only fooling themself.

We are still talking about you average wild brook trout stream, right?

I was once a put and take angler and have harvested wild trout in the past. Still am on occasion for stocked trout, and trust me when i say I had no problem catching native brookies on little red worms. I practically grew up in the woods. Hell, I could catch natives on a piece of cigarette filter if I wanted to. As long as you don't spook them, they are about as easy to catch as bluegills.

That said, I'm not paranoid. I just choose not to spoon feed this type of info on a public forum.

Most people, ... when they want to find the best wild trout streams, they go to the PaF&BC list of Class A streams. They may also look at the wilderness trout stream list or the special regulations lists. I use those lists too, but only to find where not to go.

So most of you wouldn't be interested in my favorite brookie stream anyway. That is, if I actually had one. The truth is I haven't found it yet.

 

[JackM]

I have at least 8-10 good brookie waters in the Laurel Highlands. I don't have to fish the same one more than once every few years. This is why I believe the more options any given angler has, the less likely he is to run into another angler. As for this myth of the stream-sweeping bait angler, Dave is right, red worms are excellent and effective. The real thing people misunderstand is that brookie stream are both under-utilized, and to some extent, wastefully under-harvested. And meat hunters do not want to spend day in the rhododendrum for even 60 7 inch trouts. Get over it.

 

[pcray1231]

Agree, native brookies very easy to catch on bait or fly. Yeah, they're spooky. Having been a brookie afishinado before and after the switch to fly fishing, and still doing this kind of fishing alongside bait fishing family, I do feel fly fishing is perhaps more effective on brookies overall. So many different situations. Bait most effective for those deep holes, the best spots on the stream. Flies are more effective for small pockets, flats, and such, i.e. the majority of the stream where baitfishing is tough because it forces you to get too close.

Spinners coupled with a competent fisherman is probably the most effective, short of dynamite.

However, when I say more effective, it's not like the fly fishermen will catch 40 and the bait guy zero. It's more like 40 to 35. The bait guy gets 7 or 8 in that deep hole where the fly guy would have only gotten 2 or 3. But, the fly guy more than making up the ground as you fish your way to the next "hole".

I have some favorite streams, of course. While I enjoy fishing NW PA as much or more, there's no question in my mind that eastern PA has a handful of brookie streams that put anything on the western side of the state to shame. In a way, they're too good. Takes some interest out of it. It'd be like going on a hunt with a 100% success rate.

 

[Troutbum82]

Well dave you were clearly an above average bait fisherman. I was refering to your opening season trout fisherman. Which are the majority of pa trout fisherman.