Trout Boomer by Bill Anderson

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Hey crew, looking for a copy for my PA trout fishing library. Anyone know where I can find a copy? Seems it's out of print, I know Bill is on here from time to time.
 
I run into him a lot on the J
I’ll ask next time I see him
You could also get hold of him on Little Juniata River Association site
 
Last I heard Bill had issues with a fly by night publisher that caused this to go out of print. He said he was working on a new edition with revisions and was seeking alternative arrangements (something like Stackpole would be my guess). For what it’s worth, I have a copy that I left in my truck parked in the sun while fishing and when I came back the entire binding had melted causing every page to become a loose leaf. I’d prolly wait for the new edition 😂
 
Nocktavius said:
Last I heard Bill had issues with a fly by night publisher that caused this to go out of print. He said he was working on a new edition with revisions and was seeking alternative arrangements (something like Stackpole would be my guess). For what it’s worth, I have a copy that I left in my truck parked in the sun while fishing and when I came back the entire binding had melted causing every page to become a loose leaf. I’d prolly wait for the new edition 😂
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That is interesting, might explain a few of the glaring editing mistakes. I always wondered how you get to the point of publishing a book with a page that says "insert picture here" on it.
 
dudemanspecial said:
That is interesting, might explain a few of the glaring editing mistakes. I always wondered how you get to the point of publishing a book with a page that says "insert picture here" on it.
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No editing and proofreading?

That's a lot like the internet.
 
To be clear it's a wonderful book, I am not trying to badmouth it or Bill, and would love an updated / expanded edition. I am sure publishing a book of that nature is not an inexpensive task.
 
He has commented on updating it. It's slow because of everything he does for the organization. What people see is the tip of the iceberg.
You can google trout boomer for contact info. I would be surprised if he didn't have a few copies to sell
There was also a misplaced picture of the fly (wrong one inserted).
 
nymphingmaniac said:
He has commented on updating it. It's slow because of everything he does for the organization. What people see is the tip of the iceberg.
You can google trout boomer for contact info. I would be surprised if he didn't have a few copies to sell
There was also a misplaced picture of the fly (wrong one inserted).
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He has been working on getting a new publisher for several years. Sure hope he gets one.
 
It is a great book and a great reference for those that fish the Little J. Hopefully it comes back out in print.
 
At the end of Feb I asked if he had any news on the update - he said "not yet".
 
I read the book about a month ago. I skipped the chapters about different flies, though.

One glaring mistake I saw is that he gave troutbert credit for taking water temperatures on the upper "J" years ago when we had that heat wave with highs for a couple days in the low 100's. It was me who sent this information to Bill A.
 
FrankTroutAngler said:
I read the book about a month ago. I skipped the chapters about different flies, though.

One glaring mistake I saw is that he gave troutbert credit for taking water temperatures on the upper "J" years ago when we had that heat wave with highs for a couple days in the low 100's. It was me who sent this information to Bill A.
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I heard it was you from a couple of sources
 
FrankTroutAngler said:
I read the book about a month ago. I skipped the chapters about different flies, though.

One glaring mistake I saw is that he gave troutbert credit for taking water temperatures on the upper "J" years ago when we had that heat wave with highs for a couple days in the low 100's. It was me who sent this information to Bill A.
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It sounds like we both gave him info on the upper Little J years ago. This is what I recall:

Back in the day the upper LJ was generally considered too warm and too polluted to be good trout water. People were focused on the lower river, the special regs area, which is heavily influenced by massive limestone springs.

I don't remember what year, but sometime in the 1990s, I was driving along the upper river in spring and thought it just had that "look", that it looked "trouty", so I picked a random spot and started catching wild brown trout.

This really got my interest, so over several trips I fished nearly the whole stretch from downtown Tyrone up past Tipton, up past Bellwood, the whole way up to the mouth of Sandy Run at Pinecroft. There were wild browns all through there.

I told Bill about this and he invited me to a meeting of the LRJA. I did a short presentation, telling them that there were wild trout all through the upper LJ and showing photos of them.

My presentation focused mostly on wild trout populations, not much on water temperatures, but as I recall I mentioned that the water got warm and low up there in the summer, but I described the various cooler tributaries that provide thermal refuge and allow wild browns to survive those tough summer conditions.
 
troutbert said:
It sounds like we both gave him info on the upper Little J years ago. This is what I recall:

Back in the day the upper LJ was generally considered too warm and too polluted to be good trout water. People were focused on the lower river, the special regs area, which is heavily influenced by massive limestone springs.

I don't remember what year, but sometime in the 1990s, I was driving along the upper river in spring and thought it just had that "look", that it looked "trouty", so I picked a random spot and started catching wild brown trout.

This really got my interest, so over several trips I fished nearly the whole stretch from downtown Tyrone up past Tipton, up past Bellwood, the whole way up to the mouth of Sandy Run at Pinecroft. There were wild browns all through there.

I told Bill about this and he invited me to a meeting of the LRJA. I did a short presentation, telling them that there were wild trout all through the upper LJ and showing photos of them.

My presentation focused mostly on wild trout populations, not much on water temperatures, but as I recall I mentioned that the water got warm and low up there in the summer, but I described the various cooler tributaries that provide thermal refuge and allow wild browns to survive those tough summer conditions.
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In his book he mentions that you rode your bike around on that 100-degree day and took water temperatures at various places upstream of Tyrone. That's precisely what I did, so I know he was writing about me but gave you credit. I sent him an email with my water-temperature data at his request.

He also makes several other mistakes. He called the stream that runs through the quarry and flows into the "J" at Ironville "Laurel Spring Run." The correct name according to every map I've ever seen is that it is called Logan Spring Run. He also mentioned a stream called Gambrel Run that his buddy had a camp along in the area between Cedar Run and Slate Run, tribs of Pine Creek. The correct name is Gamble Run. I won't name the "J" trib because I don't want to draw attention to it, but the information about one of the tribs he covers is totally inaccurate. I could probably list 20 other similar things, but I don't have the book anymore as it was loaned to me. Nor do I care to.

I was catching wild brown trout by the hundreds in the upper "J" back when you discovered wild browns there.
 
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