BradFromPotter
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Here's a photo of just some of the dead trout on Pine near Galeton :-(
The_Sasquatch wrote:
Yeah they dam up the creek right in downtown Galeton to make this big "lake"/swimming hole/picnic area type deal. On top of it, Brad doesn't a sewage line or something dump into the Pine right there at the Acorn (I think its an Acorn) store at the "square" in Galeton?
Fishidiot wrote:
Yeah, it's a shame...but lets keep in mind that these fish are stocked with the understanding they will be harvested (hopefully) by anglers. Stocked streams that warm in the summer all have die offs (most years) of the fish that survived the early months of trout season. Happens every year. Not every trout stream can hold stocked fish all year.
BradFromPotter wrote:
Fishidiot wrote:
Yeah, it's a shame...but lets keep in mind that these fish are stocked with the understanding they will be harvested (hopefully) by anglers. Stocked streams that warm in the summer all have die offs (most years) of the fish that survived the early months of trout season. Happens every year. Not every trout stream can hold stocked fish all year.
This is only the 2nd year since 1993 that I can remember that we had trout die because of high temps & low water. Pine has a great holdover population of trout.
Fishidiot wrote:
BradFromPotter wrote:
Fishidiot wrote:
Yeah, it's a shame...but lets keep in mind that these fish are stocked with the understanding they will be harvested (hopefully) by anglers. Stocked streams that warm in the summer all have die offs (most years) of the fish that survived the early months of trout season. Happens every year. Not every trout stream can hold stocked fish all year.
This is only the 2nd year since 1993 that I can remember that we had trout die because of high temps & low water. Pine has a great holdover population of trout.
Brad,
My comment was a general observation about the die off of stocked trout (too many catch and release purists get upset at images such as these). The fact of the matter is....this is a common occurence on stocked trout streams across PA most summers when we have weather such as this (and last year). While I don't deny that this may be rare on Pine Creek in Potter Co.....Pine is a very long trout stream and downriver temps do indeed get very warm in summer. In the Cedar Run section, the mean daily temp recorded since the 1940s in July is 72 and daily highs over 80 are common. Only cold water tributaries allow for trout survival when water temps are this warm. Other streams that lack such coldwater influences will invariably see most stocked trout die by August. These fish would have been better suited to harvest by anglers on such waters IMO.
TimMurphy wrote:
Thanks for doing the legwork and posting this management plan. I'm only about 1/3 of the way through reading it, and I'll probably print it out and save it for future review.
From scope of the report and depth of it's detail it has become quite evident to me that despite the occasionally bashing received here on the board, the PA Fish and Boat Commission is comprised of dedicated hard working individuals who really are working in the best interests of the angler's of the State.
They are good people working with modest funding and we all should realize that even the Fish Commission can't make chicken salad out of chicken #OOPS#.
As far as I am concerned they absolutely do the best they can possibly do for us given the economic constraints under which they must work.
They need to be recognized and appreciated for that!
Regards,
Tim Murphy