Fishing soft hackles

jkilroy

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Hello all,
Wondering if some of you good folks could give me some tips and tactics on using, when to use, soft hackle flies. I'd like to open my arsenal by starting to use them. Seems like lately all I've been doing is nymphing, which is very effective. I know other times prior to a hatch soft hackles could be effective.

Thanks
 
Just off of the top of my head, I like to swing a peacock and partridge to likely spots early in the day before the grannoms get going.
 
jkilroy wrote:
Hello all,
Wondering if some of you good folks could give me some tips and tactics on using, when to use, soft hackle flies.

Hasn't changed much since this was written in '83. I'm lead to understand he wasn't a competition angler, so maybe his advise isn't sound.

 
I'm open for any advice. I'll read it. Thanks. I'm not sure how many comp anglers even use soft hackles
 
Wrong Stewart . RN is a better read :0)

Fish soft hackles as a nymph, or swing.

They do both ;0)
 
Dead drift, and pull ups and out where the fish lay. If it was a standard nymph, right when you know your in a sweet spot just pull up.
 
Are these flies effective (swinging/lifting) during winter or only when bugs are emerging? I had one of my best days ever swinging PT soft hackles on the breeches but it was during the Sulphurs.
 
I have found soft hackles effective right before during and after a hatch. Swinging them with a series of mends during hatching and egg laying. especially during caddis activity. After the hatch dead drift trying to imitate drowned adults. There are many ways to fish them.
One of my favorite books is by Dave Hughes wet flies a good read. He gives just about every effective technique there is. In my opinion.
I have read that book more times than I can count.

GenCon
 
gfen wrote:

Hasn't changed much since this was written in '83. I'm lead to understand he wasn't a competition angler, so maybe his advise isn't sound.


Well, at the beginning of chapter III, the author warns against any foppery:

Dress – The only advice it is necessary to the angler on this head is, not to select any very gaudy colors and to avoid any approach to foppery, as trout have the most thorough contempt for a fop……


This is still very sound 19th century advice.
 
Guess I could put one on as a top dropper on a nymph rig. Then work it at the end of the drift.

I was fishing spring cr. a few weeks ago and someone was nailing fish on soft hackles.
 
sipe wrote:
Are these flies effective (.

Swinging wets is effective all year. I use them more during the springtime months as they are indeed most effective - indeed devastating - when bugs are hatching. However there are insects moving in the water column this time of year too (BWOs or midge pupae) and plenty of dead drift stuff like cress bugs or early stoneflies as well and soft hackles are very good, generic, impressionistic imitations of pretty much all of these (except maybe cress bugs).
 
imho soft hackles are the most versatile flies you can fish. Aside from the standard swing quartering downstream, you can shortline them with weight like a nymph, dead drift up stream, use them as a top dropper when fishing a standard nymph, grease them and fish as an emerger, put them under an indicator fly.

One of the best days I've ever had on stream came while fishing a unweighted large brown soft hackle under a #12 iso comp dun on the Little J one early October day. There were slate drakes in the air and on the surface of the water but for whatever reason the fish were keying on the dropper. I quit counting after 25 fish.

I also use them as a search pattern in unfamiliar water with great success.

One more thing, on hard fished waters they can work well because a lot of anglers simply don't use them.
 
geebee wrote:
Wrong Stewart . RN is a better read :0)

This one?

The Pete Hidy Sports Illustrated book is a very concise primer on it; you'll have to pick it up used, but you can scour the old SI archives and find the articles it was based on.

The Pete Hidy book itself is, from what I understand, akin to the "fishing" portion of James Leisenring's Art of Tying the Wet Fly. I've never read that, because I'm too cheap to spring for a couple and someone who's name won't be mentioned liberated the public library's copy of it.

Roger Fogg's books set plenty of credit, as do the the Sylvester Nemes books.

 
before Halford and his dry flies and Skues and his nymph's there was only soft hackles & wet flies for trout.

 
gfen wrote:
geebee wrote:
Wrong Stewart . RN is a better read :0)

This one?

yup.

and

http://www.amazon.com/Boys-Book-Angling-Robert-Stewart/dp/B001G4U7LQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389632941&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Unsung-trails--ways-exploration-adventure/dp/B0000CKSXV/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389632941&sr=1-3

all based on his fishing and travelling exploits between the wars (1920's).

 
beadhead2 wrote:
Paff own wet fly expert
http://www.wetflywaterguides.com/

Dave is completely devoted to fishing wets and I enjoy just watching him work a run. He's also very helpful, maybe he'll chime in or shoot him a PM.
 
Yeah if you like it wet, you gotta fish w/ Dave!

The diversity of the soft hackle IS amazing, as others have commented. I started fishing them pretty heavily over the past year or so, thanks to a shipment from Skakey. One of my favorite summer set-ups is to trail it off a dry fly.
 
One of my favorite summer set-ups is to trail it off a dry fly.

i read a piece about this a short while back - rather than the standard dropper 12", the writer uses 3-4" and fishes it as an emerger and slays them.
 
Please allow me to add my perspective on soft hackles.

If you mean soft hackles as in traditional, classic wet flies, they are extremely effective and versatile flies. They have been around and worked for more than a hundred years and will continue to work well into the future.

Soft hackles are just that, soft hackles. The tying secret is no more than 2 turns for the collar. Soft hackles move in the water and create life so you want sparseness. The movement could be legs, could be wings, could be gills, it could be anything. Too many turns and you defeat the reason why they are effective.

A wet fly swing is very effective, especially on waters that see good caddis hatches. Most caddis hatch underwater and dart upwards against the current to break the surface and emerge. That darting movement is what the wet fly swing imitates and that darting movement becomes ingrained in the trout’s memory and that’s why fishing a wet fly swing during periods of no hatch catches fish.

Weighting a wet fly and fishing it closer to the bottom imitates many things from a cased caddis to a mayfly nymph to a stonefly nymph to maybe even a cressbug or scud.

Wet flies make excellent emergers or cripples you just need a dry fly desiccant like Frog’s Fanny to recondition the fly after every 5-6 casts so it continues to float. If you use an actual floatant use a spray type floatant and not a gel floatant like Gink, as the gel will actually cause the fly to sink. To improve floatability you can substitute stiffer dry fly hackles but still tie the collar wet fly style. The stiffer barbs will be more resilient to becoming water logged and sinking.

Fishing wet flies is a long gone forgotten method that many do not use but those that use it are generally the very successful trout fishermen.
 
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