copper and brown stones and others

[mike_richardson]

I had about an hour and a half to work with yesterday so I whipped up a couple flies and hit the stream. Copper and brown is my go to winter pattern color of choice. I bought some of these Gamakatsu B10S hooks for streamers but wanted to try them on trout. I will put up the full adventure on the main forum, but I am half afraid to use these things on fish. LOL

I caught 2 fish and a rock on the stones, and the rest were on the smaller nymphs pictured. I say I caught the rock because literally I thought I had a take, set the hook, and pulled the rock in. The hook literally penetrated the sandstone rock and hung there. I pinched the barbs on them, but still these things are nasty.

I uploaded the pic of the sucker and the hook blew through his jaw bone.

The decent brown I had caught on them, the hook was pointed upwards and must have hit in his eye area, as when I was removing the fly you can see his eye move.

I dunno I love how these wide gap hooks function, but I am not in it to cause injury to the fish. I mean I know a barbless hook is supposed to be better for them, but what would it be like for us to have a 16 penny nail shoved behind our eyes and removed?

I am still up in the air on using them, but you cant deny they are WICKED HOOKS! LOL

 

[moon1284]

I'm not sure they are the best choice for nymph hooks (or to use for small to medium trout in general) due to their large size. I don't know much about those hooks, maybe try a smaller size in the same style if they make them.

I'm not sure I'd use a hook that big for a Salmon or Steelhead nymph (based on what your pic looks like), but thats just me. To me, its kind of like using size 1/0 hook with a nightcrawler for smallmouth bass. You can use a size 6 with the same nightcrawler and catch just as many fish.

Tiemco and Daiichi make pretty sharp hooks, they might be a better choice for nymph hooks because they make them in smaller sizes.

 

[mike_richardson]

I am waiting on a bunch of Daicchi hooks to come in, and is what I am planning on using, but I never tied on any wide gap type hooks. I am trying their S10 hooks and seeing how they do, But even then, they still concern me. Maybe I am over thinking it as its something new for me. LOL

 

[nomad_archer]

I am not sure what the problem is using these as nymph hooks. B10S in size 2, 4, 6 is called for in the majority articulated streamers for trout. I believe you have the potential for fish injury any time you start getting into bigger hooks. So personally I wouldn't' worry about it much.

Some stones are big bugs which require pretty big hooks. Nice ties mike as usual

 

[mike_richardson]

Thanks Nomad, just don't want to be out the gouging up my buddies. LOL

 

[nomad_archer]

mike_richardson wrote:
Thanks Nomad, just don't want to be out the gouging up my buddies. LOL

I hear ya man. I feel the same way when I foul hook one with a streamer. Its like sorry buddy didn't mean to catch you in the side of the face or in the tail.

 

[moon1284]

Nomad, you aren't going to hook many small fish on adv articulated streamer. You will with a large nymph. I'm not disparaging the op at all, I just gave my opinion that they might not be the best hooks for nymphs.