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Elsie 2/0

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For the longest time, my friend, Elsie, has been asking me to tie her a Salmon fly.
Today was the day, since its her birthday tomorrow. This pattern is from Fishing Gazette, and is also in Hale 3rd edition.

Hook is a vintage 2/0 effort

The veils on the rear third and the cheeks are genuine blue enameled thrush, a very kind gift from a friend

The wing is stacked loose tippets. Pattern called for tippet strands (plenty) so i stripped the longest fibers from 4 of the longest feathers on the neck i had and tie them in stacked on top of eachother.

Cheeks (blue thrush) and sides of JC were specifically listed as extra size.

Probably could have should have tied it on a smaller hook given the Jay throat - i use the very biggest feather i had.

First time tying multiple loose tippets in a bunch - seems like it worked out pretty well.

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Posted on: 2013/7/26 13:58


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Beautiful fly. But I have to ask. How do you find the time for all these wonderful flies you tie.

GenCon

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Re: Elsie 2/0

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Beautiful fly. But I have to ask. How do you find the time for all these wonderful flies you tie.

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Generally tie only a bit at a time over a few nights, whenever i can steal a few minutes to get to the bench. Usually that is when my wife is putting my daughter to sleep.

This one i tied in one sitting this morning (day off work)


Posted on: 2013/7/26 14:20


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Salmon flies and classic streamers are so neat. I always like looking at your posts eunan. I read somewhere that some salmon flies can take hours to tie. Why is that? What is it that takes so much time? Is it all in processing the feathers or something? Varnishing the head?

Posted on: 2013/7/26 15:17


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jeremymcon wrote:
Salmon flies and classic streamers are so neat. I always like looking at your posts eunan. I read somewhere that some salmon flies can take hours to tie. Why is that? What is it that takes so much time? Is it all in processing the feathers or something? Varnishing the head?



This fly took me about 3 hours.
Reasons as follows

Tying in all the materials
Making a smooth underbody with no bumps, particularly for floss body flies.
Making a married wing - this can take up to 1.5 hours, as these wings did, and that was before i even put thread on the hook. These wings are married single strands. Solid blocks of color will take a shorter time to make the wing.

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Material prep, which is usually done before hand, like straightening tippets, selecting the right size feathers.

Head varnishing is usually only 3-4 coats of Cellire. I used to use sally hansens, but cellire is much better, and doesnt get too thick over time. Cellire is available from Great feathers for $3 per bottle, made by Veniards...Its what the old timers used to use.

Posted on: 2013/7/26 16:22


Re: Elsie 2/0

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Hmm... I can't picture what "marrying" single strands of feathers involves... I'll have to find a YouTube video or something.

Posted on: 2013/7/26 17:50


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Yes, we've seen the full dress flies, and they're very pretty.

Now, how about the ones you actually use? I, for one, would be far more interested in what someone who can tie full dress flies actually puts in the water.


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I've asked this before too gfen, but I think the answer is that he tyes for art's sake, not fishing. The search function will yield a lot of very pretty creations for the shadow box.


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Guys, i rarely fish. This year, no times yet. Last year, i believe 3 times.
When i fish, i fish winged wets and simple nymphs, hare's ear, pheasant tail etc.

There are plenty of variations of nymph patterns available.
The salmon flies i tie pretty much for fun. I know there's not a lot of call for them in these parts.
If i was tying them for fishing, i'd tie them on eyed hooks, and with the same materials and attention to detail as on the flies i've posted.

If there are any common patterns you want to see tied by me, just list them, and i'll tie them.

Posted on: 2013/7/26 18:25
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Are there any patterns with snowshoe rabbit? Gfen loves snowshoe rabbit...

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How about an iron blue dun?

Posted on: 2013/7/26 18:41
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How about an iron blue dun?


I"ll have to order some furnace hackles.

For snowshoe, are you asking about classic flies? or regular modern flies.

I tied couple snow shoe bombers in the winter past. I"ll photograph them and post them

Posted on: 2013/7/26 18:47


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JackM wrote:
How about an iron blue dun?


I"ll have to order some furnace hackles.



Wait, you don't have a reasonable facsimile. You can re-name it. Something like "Slate-blue dun."

Posted on: 2013/7/26 18:50
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I have light dun half saddle. i'll tie it with that....

Posted on: 2013/7/26 18:59


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The winged wet catches more trouts.

Posted on: 2013/7/26 19:04
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