PFBC Meets Tomorrow Regarding Stocking Over Class A Populations

[sixfootfenwick]

If it gets more attention who cares?
They surveyed it already, they have a data set.

If the pressure reduces the fish population, but they also stock it, when they survey it again it will be reduced even more.
🤣

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Yep, those evil stocker advocates ruin eveything, right?

Not everything, pizza is still pretty good.

 

[5footfenwick]

If it gets more attention who cares?
They surveyed it already, they have a data set.

If the pressure reduces the fish population, but they also stock it, when they survey it again it will be reduced even more.
🤣

Haha true

 

[sixfootfenwick]

It appears I was mistaken

 

[Cznymph]

Let us not forget that the Potter County Anglers Club hatchery which is located on Freeman Run, had an infestation of gill lice (Salmincola edwardsii) from fish that it purchased from a private facility. The introduction of this, can’t be doing the brook trout any favors.

 

[Fly-Swatter]

Not everything, pizza is still pretty good.

Mostly, except Old Forge-style pizza. 🤣

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Mostly, except Old Forge-style pizza. 🤣

The popularity of Old Forge pizza with the amount Coal Miners in that region, coupled with the effects of coal mining on trout populations that needed to be supplemented with stocking is a "correlation" I never expected.

 

[flies&brookies]

Let us not forget that the Potter County Anglers Club hatchery which is located on Freeman Run, had an infestation of gill lice (Salmincola edwardsii) from fish that it purchased from a private facility. The introduction of this, can’t be doing the brook trout any favors.

wich private hatchery were they purchasing gill lice infested trout from???? i was always under the impression that a coop hatchery was not allowed to obtain trout from anywheres but the pfbc for thier facilities, i believe the club up there has not had brook trout since 2019

 

[Cznymph]

wich private hatchery were they purchasing gill lice infested trout from???? i was always under the impression that a coop hatchery was not allowed to obtain trout from anywheres but the pfbc for thier facilities, i believe the club up there has not had brook trout since 2019

Rainbow paradise.

They no longer have brook trout because of the gill lice detection. They would have been detected sometime around 2017-2018.

 

[flies&brookies]

lest we not forget they granted an exemption upon section 3 a couple years back on a stream north of my cabin on Big Moores Run it was a class a wild brook and brown trout stream and now allows a business to stock it and charge people 250 bucks a day to catch and release only and no benefit to the fishermen of pa whatsoever i believe this stream is also a border stream with pa state forest lands and i hear but not sure if true the trout unlimited group up there holds events at the location and purchases trout from them for thier tu chapter stockings

 

[KylePruitt]

lest we not forget they granted an exemption upon section 3 a couple years back on a stream north of my cabin on Big Moores Run it was a class a wild brook and brown trout stream and now allows a business to stock it and charge people 250 bucks a day to catch and release only and no benefit to the fishermen of pa whatsoever i believe this stream is also a border stream with pa state forest lands and i hear but not sure if true the trout unlimited group up there holds events at the location and purchases trout from them for thier tu chapter stockings

Gross.

 

[sixfootfenwick]

😮

 

[moorestowngreg]

Here is a piece from the 1959 PA Angler magazine about this subject, which illustrates that the more things change, the more they stay the same sometimes. This was a pretty insightful article 65 years ago, and still is today.

 

[troutbert]

Here is a piece from the 1959 PA Angler magazine about this subject, which illustrates that the more things change, the more they stay the same sometimes. This was a pretty insightful article 65 years ago, and still is today.

Excellent article, written in 1959, the same year that Trout Unlimited was formed. These things were already well understood that far back.

And even earlier. A Park Service biologist was writing about wild trout management in the 1940s, and the Park Service began phasing out the hatcheries in Yellowstone Park around then.

Can you imagine PA Angler publishing an article like this today?

 

[sixfootfenwick]

Excellent article, written in 1959, the same year that Trout Unlimited was formed. These things were already well understood that far back.

And even earlier. A Park Service biologist was writing about wild trout management in the 1940s, and the Park Service began phasing out the hatcheries in Yellowstone Park around then.

Can you imagine PA Angler publishing an article like this today?

I can't.
We are discussing stocking class A's in 2025.

 

[TimMurphy]

Here is a piece from the 1959 PA Angler magazine about this subject, which illustrates that the more things change, the more they stay the same sometimes. This was a pretty insightful article 65 years ago, and still is today.

Dear moorestowngreg,

Thanks for posting this article. Pee-Aye is such a wonderfully progressive state, sixty-six years later the decision makers at the PFBC are still ignoring the science. It makes me sooooo proud! 😉

Regards,

Tim Murphy 🙂