PFBC Meets Tomorrow Regarding Stocking Over Class A Populations
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sixfootfenwick
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Yep.
All of them
Stretches of small water that get lots of human activity will have few wild brook trout and brown. Maybe a few.
If a section of surface water flow is not truly suitable for wild and native trout because of high density human activities, and/or stability of stream composition, then it would seem to be a stretch/section open for temporarily holding food-strain trout. Those trout in a stream, especially rainbows, will drift downstream if weak or necessary behavior. Wild and native trout are much less inclined to hang out at the swimming hole (although they will) than in another section.
Recreational stocking of short-life expectancy human-desired food fish - trout in Pennsylvania, catfish in Texas - is for those for whom fishing is mostly occasional and social.
Sacrificial sections of water bodies for light recreational activities by fringe fishing people would seem to help overall in keeping flyfishing a respected activity of the general population.
But Class A do need protection.
If a section of surface water flow is not truly suitable for wild and native trout because of high density human activities, and/or stability of stream composition, then it would seem to be a stretch/section open for temporarily holding food-strain trout. Those trout in a stream, especially rainbows, will drift downstream if weak or necessary behavior. Wild and native trout are much less inclined to hang out at the swimming hole (although they will) than in another section.
Recreational stocking of short-life expectancy human-desired food fish - trout in Pennsylvania, catfish in Texas - is for those for whom fishing is mostly occasional and social.
Sacrificial sections of water bodies for light recreational activities by fringe fishing people would seem to help overall in keeping flyfishing a respected activity of the general population.
But Class A do need protection.
Freeman run is a tributary to the First Fork of the Sinnemahoning. It’s (the First Fork) around 30 miles of stocked trout with great access on both public and private land. It also has a Keystone Select section and Stevenson Reservoir, which allow for year round trout fishing.
No one is hurting for stocked trout fishing opportunities in that area.
GANGGREEN
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Amen. I recognize that I'm in the minority, but I'd be OK with ALL of the streams in Potter and nearby counties coming off the stocking list, but even if you LOVE you some stocked trout, there are SCADS of opportunities here and we need not be stocking over Class A streams for a research study whose data likely wouldn't surprise anyone (and whose data might not even be used because the return to the stocking list isn't about "science" but social issues entirely (namely guys who simply could never have enough miles of stocked trout water)).
The_Sasquatch
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Yes, this would be wise, I think. Maybe "ALL" is overstated? Maybe not...but I have no problem w/ stocking the lower reaches of Kettle or Pine. But stocking Freeman Run-what? Why!? It's just idiotic.
The Rodfather
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I'd say 2-3 more pages and 4-5 more "well-liked members" complaining about the thread and I know its not in danger yet because nobody has evoked he who shall not be named yet.
sixfootfenwick
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What is wrong with this thread?
People can voice their opinion on this matter.
Stocking Freeman Run, the "experiment" and having to discuss the validity of stocking a Class A wild trout fishery IS idiotic.
People can voice their opinion on this matter.
Stocking Freeman Run, the "experiment" and having to discuss the validity of stocking a Class A wild trout fishery IS idiotic.
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wildtrout2
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I haven't really noticed that to be the case. Not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it.
Roofin' Trouter
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Yes, I gave a little history in comment #38 but will give you a little more since maybe you missed it. Freeman Run sections 03 and 04 were voted as Class A in fall 2020. Stocking was supposed to cease in those sections as a result. However, A special activities permit was granted for Kids derby for spring 2021 on section 03 at Austin Dam Memorial Park. That derby was never held. I heard John Harmon had disagreement with the park people but don't know how true that was . But anyway, 2021 section 03 and 04 were NOT stocked. In 2022 the kids derby was given for section 04 behind Austin School. 600 rainbow trout were stocked for that derby in 2022,2023,2024, and 2025.
The_Sasquatch
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I hope no one took my post as calling people "idiotic". I think it's an idiotic policy. But lots of people who aren't idiots do idiotic things all the time-who would deny it!?
wildtrout2
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I could be wrong, but I can envision Freeman Run getting a "little" more pressure after being brought up here, no?
GANGGREEN
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I have zero doubt, but that's not the fault of anyone here. That's the fault of the people who are behind the insistence that it needs to be stocked and the PFBC for entertaining that notion. It's a nice stream, but access isn't really that great and it doesn't presently get much attention at all, so any pressure it receives would probably be short-lived.
wildtrout2
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Point well taken. 👍
I agree. This hoopla may make some people curious and give it a try. Once.
The not-so-great access will prevent it from becoming very popular.
