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Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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hmmmmm...yeah, not sure about the whole PCB thing...Jay with what you pour into your body on a a Sat. night you might be immune but it still sounds not so good for you.

Posted on: 2008/3/3 23:03


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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Hey, read that beer thread. I only pour the best in my body.

Posted on: 2008/3/4 0:05


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008
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All the browns in Valley are wild fish. Perhaps some of the posters put up the wrong photos.

The ironic thing is that the best thing that ever happened to Valley was the PCB contamination. If the PCBs weren’t present, Valley would be just another put-and-take fishery like nearly every other stream in SEPA. When the PCBs were discovered, stocking ceased, regulations were changed to C&R, monies for stream restoration were allocated to Valley Forge TU and other conservation organizations, and a wild trout fishery was born right in the middle of the greater metro Philly area.

Posted on: 2008/3/4 7:08


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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Yeup, afishinado is correct that the PCBs are what put this stream on the radar as far as conservation goes, and not to mention what caused the elimination of the stocking/harvesting, etc.

However, this stream is not just chugging along all fine and dandy - - with no issues. Far from it. VFTU is still leading the good fight, and if it is not for their constant watch dogging, VC and its EV tribs would pretty much be just another drainage ditch leading to the Schuylkill River.

Take for instance this article from the Philly Inquirer last week and what a developer might have done, if it was not for the VFTU and their partners. They deserve a lot of praise.

O’Neill said his company was making Little Valley Creek “better than what God put there.”

What a load of BS that statement is!

Posted on: 2008/3/4 9:03


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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argh!right in that article they call brown trout native.

whatever happened to responsible journalism?

they also call rainbows muddy tasting.interesting.

i onced fished valley with a guy who said"they should stock this to make it easier."

i said "you just don't get it."that was the last time we fished together :)

Posted on: 2008/3/4 17:04


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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I can say first hand that some of the surrounding companies around the worthington site do a great job in attempting to reduce the amount of runoff/polution. I hope the developer at worthington can live up to his promise. I see trout just downstream of the worthington site some nice one's too and would be greatly disappointed if they don't do a good job to protect it.

Posted on: 2008/3/5 17:14


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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im really enjoying all of this insight into vc. most of which i knew to a varying degree. i agree that the pcb's might be the best thing to happen to vc. i love the having the ability to fish a truely native stream so close to home. i almost prefer a 12 inch vc brownie to a 20 inch stockie. i was out there this past weekend fishing pheasant tails and bwo's with success.

Posted on: 2008/3/5 20:11


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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mnem,

Calling it a stream in a native state will bring you some trouble in these parts. Substitute 'wild' for 'native' and you're good. I don't care, but someone was gonna say it.

Brown trout aren't native to north america, let alone PA.

Posted on: 2008/3/5 21:43


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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your splitting hairs but your right. brookies are the only native to pa, and there not a true trout. correct me if im wrong but i believe there in the char family and not a salmonoid.

go flyers!

Posted on: 2008/3/6 20:56


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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In rebuttal to your questioning the authenticity of the photo and claiming to fish VC for a very long time, you should know that the lower river gets a push of “dirty browns”, as I like to call them. I only got one this year (as featured in questionable photo). My bad for calling it a VC local.
Below illustrate typical VC fish:

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Posted on: 2008/3/11 21:05


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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I’d also like to add that they don’t always have a typical coloration.
I’ve got plenty of non-typical colored fish, as show below,

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Posted on: 2008/3/11 21:10


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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I've been reading this thread from the genisis and it has been insightful and entertaining. I fished VC on Groundhog's Day with my brother (Gov'tMule). He's an above average flyfisherman. He loves a challenge. Since I have 2 little kids, I don't get out as much, so my level is around average anymore. So I went with low expectations for myself. However, we both hooked into fish in between the covererd bridge and 29 and I landed a nice 11 inch brown on a brown stone. I think what worked in my favor is that we had rain earlier. It made the water a bit off-colored so we I didn't have to be a stealth. Anyway, I'll give it another shot.

Posted on: 2008/3/12 15:29


Re: Valley Creek 2/24/2008

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Lo Pan is lying, he was hooking into chubs and landed a sucker..HA HA just kidding!! Above Average???...i doubt it but thanks.

jeff

Posted on: 2008/3/13 8:36



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