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Nice report. I hope to get down there in the next few weeks.
How long does it take you to walk down to the jetty from the last parking lot? Do you just work the water all the way down? That is a good walk. Probably about 1 1/2 miles on sand! Rob
Posted on: 2010/9/24 8:24
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Rob,
You're right, the walk down to the "north jetty" is over a mile. It's easier at low tide when you can walk on wetter, harder sand. Lacking a 4WD I hike the beach and usually really enjoy it. On Wed however, it was tough. I shoulda wet waded like everyone else - instead wore the waders on a hot day and was soaked with sweat. I didn't bring enough water and finished the day thoroughly smoked. If I just walk it straight thru I can get down to the jetty in about 20-25 minutes but I walk fast. Usually I'll stop and fish a few spots and chat with the fishermen who line the beach.
Posted on: 2010/9/24 17:26
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Looked like a good time Dave I wish I could of went
Posted on: 2010/9/24 18:10
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I have 30+ years flyfishing PA waters for trout, bass, etc., but none chucking streamers in the surf. Will an 8 weight suffice and does anyone have any suggestions as to where, when, and what flies? I've been wanting to try this for a long time and any info as to how to get started would be greatly appreciated.
Posted on: 2010/9/24 20:13
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Mason,
By all means try surf fishing, esp if you live close to the beach. I'm often surprised by FFers in eastern PA who won't hesitate to drive 8 hours to fish steelhead but never bother to fish the salt although it's much closer. You should, however, be aware that inshore saltwater fishing - esp from shore or wading - is very hit or miss. You have to time it right. Prime season would be early May- mid June and mid Sept to mid Dec. An 8WT would be ideal for back bays and maybe out in the surf under calm conditions during summer. For the fall run, a 9WT would be better and I use a 10WT for surf and jetty. Personally, I'd even prefer an 11WT to a 9WT but, like trout fishing, rod weight depends a lot on personal preferance. Surf fishing conditions, esp during prime time in mid to late fall, is rough gnarly fishing with heavy wind, crashing waves, big fish that are much stronger than similar sized freshwater fish, and powerful waves and current. I wouldn't recommend an 8WT in those conditions but it would be fine for many other salt water applications. Flies would be similar to what you'd use for freshwater bass fishing but in generally larger sizes and on salt hooks. I love tying salt water patterns although it's a much less sophisticated game than trout flies. You can make salt tying as comlex as you'd like but run-of-the-mill flies for this game can be very simple streamers. I use Clouser Minnows for a lot of my surf fishing.
Posted on: 2010/9/24 21:05
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I'm envious Dave...miss that surf fishin' from when I lived in Boston.
Love the pic of the sand eel! Perfect example and perfect tie! Wife used to cook up an occasional blue...baked with bacon! MMMM.
Posted on: 2010/9/24 21:48
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This post reminded me of fishing the delaware bay for blues with my father many moons ago. The fishing in the Bay was amazing back then.
Good post!
Posted on: 2010/9/25 1:18
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Ya I,m enviouse of you for getting to do what I always wanted to do. I was going to make a trip this year but just never worked out.
Hopefully ,God willing, I can make it next May. Thanks for posting,John
Posted on: 2010/9/26 12:41
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if you are fishing the jetty from the post to the tip, try a spread fly on a sinking line and get down below the smaller blues. Alot of times the bigger stripers will pick off the bait or pieces under the blues. November is BIG sand eel time some reaching 7" they migrate down from new england. I make leadcore shooting heads to get down fast on the pocket side.
A 9wt. is the norm, though I prefer the 10 - 12 wts. myself. I do carry my 8wt. T-3 for calm back bay fishing, but on the beach its the 9 -12 wt for sure.
Posted on: 2010/9/27 10:37
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Fishidiot,
Thanks for the tips!...I hope to give it try this fall and will give you a full report.
Posted on: 2010/9/27 19:20
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You're welcome Mason. Good luck this fall. The next two months are prime time. Also, good advice from Sandfly a couple posts up. While I'd recommend an intermediate line for the beginning salt FFer, like Sandy, I prefer a very heavy lead core shooting head for jetty work. One safety note: if you're fishing the salt for the first time don't even think about walking out on wet jetty rocks without cleats. Just don't do it.
Posted on: 2010/9/27 21:22
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Nice report Dave, I really wish that I could have made that trip...To bad, I've been fighting a sinus infection and that has had me out of commission for a few days now. I like the saltwater fish pics!!!
Posted on: 2010/9/28 14:40
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I hate to be a downer. I live about 1 1/2 hours from Betty and Nicks. I'll be heading down yet again. Problem with the surf is this. When I fish the Monocacy, Mud Run, the WB, I may not catch fish but they are within casting distance. When you drive down to the surf many times there ARE NO FISH THERE. Think about it. People who post good numbers in the surf live on the beach in AWDs. You can show up in the lehigh Valley from July 15 to Sept 15 with some tricos and catch fish. I can show up Sunday with a Deadly Dick for the spinning rod and some Clousers for the 10Wt and get skunked again. Maybe I get to watch them blitzing just beyond the breakers. Believe me most of the time your not missing much.
Posted on: 2010/9/28 19:38
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