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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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Those fish look far too good not to be wild.

It is more rare but i have seen wild browns without the red on that fin.

Posted on: 2010/2/16 12:12
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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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Good old PAFF. A joke turns into a debate.

I don't think there is any way those fish are not wild. I don't care if they have aquamarine adipose fins.

Posted on: 2010/2/16 12:13


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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no doubt

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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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Lol Jay

Tom, the pictures in the original post were both of the same fish, the bigger one. Sal commented that the one in the second picture was nice but I didn't bother pointing out that they were the same fish. After looking at a blown-up version of the picture of the bigger one with the rod, it does indeed have some orange. So both have it.

This did turn into a debate rather quickly didn't it! lol

What I like most is how on the smaller one, the red spots are EXACTLY on the lateral line and EXACTLY in between the parr marks. never noticed that before.

Posted on: 2010/2/16 18:28
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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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PSUFishMenace wrote:

What I like most is how on the smaller one, the red spots are EXACTLY on the lateral line and EXACTLY in between the parr marks. never noticed that before.


I noticed that too when I blew them up. i couldn't figure out how anyone could deny these being wild. Reflex on my part.

Posted on: 2010/2/16 18:50


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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"Good old PAFF. A joke turns into a debate. "

You're right instead of debating whether that fish is wild or not, we should debate whether or not it's dead after being flopped on the snow and covered...

Posted on: 2010/2/16 19:13


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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i say there is no way hes dies from that. People think these fish are glass, yes they are more fragile than most fish but seriously....

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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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I agree. I caught a fish with a broken jaw a trips in a row back in my spin days. I was a kid, and had no idea how to handle fish. Couple that with the fact that the fish had separated mandibles, and I was amazed that it was not only living, but seemingly thriving.

I doubt those fish die, and if they do, I probably won't lose much sleep.

For what it's worth, PSU, I think that laying a fish in the snow is not in its best interest, and should be avoided. I would bet that those fish are completely fine, but in the future, please consider the value of the fish's life vs. the value of a picture. I think it might fall under the category of unnecessary harm, which c&r anglers are duty bound to avoid.

Posted on: 2010/2/17 9:52


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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I caught a fish on dries that had now lower jaw. Quite a chunky fish too.

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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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As a kid I remember catching a 24 inch trout in a local stream with my pap. The best thing about it, we weren't fishing for them. Bass with crawlers and minnows were the target. A local club stocked the stream many years before and the last thing I expected to run into was a trout, especially a 6 pound hook jaw rainbow in a stream that hits 85 in the summer.

We threw him in a dry plastic bag and drove the 5 minutes back to the house. We threw him in one of those aluminum tubs, filled it with well water and he was no worse off. Took a lot of photos before gutting him the next day. I didn't know any better as a kid, but I remember my Pap being amazed it was still alive...

Posted on: 2010/2/17 16:23


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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My pop and I caught a few carp and threw em in the bed of his truck. Drove 45 minutes in the texas heat, then put em in a wheelbarrow when we got back to his place. It was easily another half hour walk back to his pond.

Two out of three swam away.

I think the trout story is more impressive, though.

Posted on: 2010/2/17 16:39


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone said something.

I couldn't really avoid it, had to put them somewhere while i took off my glove. And the snow was EVERYWHERE! point taken though.

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Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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Eels are in the creeks throughout the year.

Posted on: 2010/2/18 12:34


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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FWIW, My post was intended as a joke about previous discussions where some argued that wild fish ALWAYS have red adipose fins, blue spots, etc, etc. Most agreed they are characteristics typical of wild fish and not of stocked fish, but we disagreed on how reliable of an indicator they could be (i.e. the % of wild fish without such traits or of stocked ones with the traits).

I did not mean to imply I thought the fish were stockies, as I believed them to be wild from the beginning.

The fish in question was the fish in the original post (both are the same fish, correct?). Based on the original pictures, and tom's blowup in post #15, I do not see a red adipose. Tom's posts #13 and #14 show a fish that I had not seen, as it was not included in the picture set in post #1. Very pretty fish, though.

Posted on: 2010/2/19 13:11


Re: Indian Run, Chester Co, 2/14/10

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FWIW, My post was intended as a joke about previous discussions where some argued that wild fish ALWAYS have red adipose fins, blue spots, etc, etc.


ooohhh NOW I GET IT! LOL flew right over my head the first time

Makes complete sense now!

anyway, enjoyed the "debate".

Posted on: 2010/2/19 16:34



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