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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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When I'm covering water I fish everything (I have a reason). Riffles, holes, structure, and frog water. I just spend more time in spots I think will hold fish. And have I have rasied fish after 20 min of casting in a good spot. The problem in a holding lye therory is these fish are apex predator. After they reach 3ft they have no natural predators except a giant musky. They can go anywere they want and they do. They also show no fear of anything including you. Thats the cool part the unperdicatible nature and behavior.

Posted on: 2012/2/19 22:59
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Paco I thought I recalled you stating you were experimenting with lead core line to get the flies down in a hurry. On average what would you say the depth of your flies are during retrieval?

I just bought an Orvis depth charge 400 grain line to get the flies down without having to weight them at all.

Also what other materials do you guys use to give the fly great action. Materials like bunny strips IMO give the best action in comparison to others like bucktail and flash, but they hold a ton of water. Whipping 4/0 tandems over my head once they're wet makes me think I'll be wearing some gaudy jewelry at some point during an outing.

Posted on: 2012/2/20 12:51
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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I gave it up. I use a sinktip or full sink line now. I strip my flys rather fast so id say maybe 4 or 5 ft. depending on how long I wait after my fly spashs down. I am expermenting with lead eyes with a spun deer hair head around them. In cases i have to fish really deep like on a lake. But i dont use rabbit or any type of fur way to heavy. I want maxium size with minium weight. Its all about efficiency.My flies arnt to complicated. Like Ramcatt said bucktail feathers and flash. And a lot of it

I never think about hitting myself with my musky stuff. My friends and me have fished 2 or 3 hrs after dark. If ya got a feeling for what your cast should be like you'll know when something wrong. This when you tuck your head into your shoulder and try to make yourself small. This happens when the wind blows into your casting shoulder or your wrung out. And look at TD55 hand thats what it looks like.

Posted on: 2012/2/20 13:22
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)
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Incidentally, I noticed in the Harrisburg newspaper Big Fish Contest yesterday that two muskies at 44" and 42" were caught from the Susquehanna River last month. Conditions are very good this winter: rivers around here are at a nice level and water temps are in the 40s. Muskies should be happy.

Posted on: 2012/2/20 13:28


Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Had some time off in the afternoon and went out yesterday for some pike. Got this one and another little hammer handle.

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Posted on: 2012/2/23 11:57


Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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I ran into some pike as well, I just could get the winter rust shook off. I missed 4, 2 were really nice.

I might have to retire the cortland procast 10wt. for a stick thats got more back bone.


Posted on: 2012/2/23 23:45
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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I have got to get going on this... I have not caught one but would love too.

Good stuff.

Posted on: 2012/3/4 11:40
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Reporting back with a skunking of my own today...did some scouting at an nearby creek mouth. Also got to test out some recently tied flies.

I found a handful of extremely fishy looking spots; but most of them were out of reach with a fly rod thanks to steep banks and/or trees.

No signs of life today, but I'll be back.




Posted on: 2012/3/4 18:03


Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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I went last evening to a spot thats produced tigers for me before. I love fishing high muddy water! I had a mid 30s fish hit. I strip set him twice, really put the coals too 'em. He got off about 10seconds later. It hit a triple tyed on 2 4\0 c70sd mustads and a 5\ 0 3407 hook. I also had 1 set up at the bank besiide me. But it spooked before I could get the fly infront of it. A good way to spend a hour or 2.

Posted on: 2012/3/4 19:23
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No doubt - that high water puts 'em right on the bank.

I hit a favorite eddy myself on Friday but didn't see any muskies. I like the higher water but I think on Friday I just had too much of a good thing as visibility was only a few inches - water was really muddy. Nevertheless, the water temp was 45 degrees. It's game time!

Posted on: 2012/3/4 20:47


Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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I need find some loud rattles like rattletrap loud. And bring them into the fold. Big flys push big water but not enuff for me. I'll try just about anything tring to tip the odds in my favor anyway I can.

Posted on: 2012/3/4 21:01
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Here you go Paco. Inspired me to do some tandem tying. Only managed to whip one up tonight but hopefully I'll get to toss it to some willing toothy critters when the waters here start to calm a bit. Super high and muddy as of late. Fly is slightly over 10". Should do the trick just gotta find some time to get out.

I've heard of some guys using rattles sold for tubes and worms the bass guys use. Personally I've only used the small fly rattles made for flies. Definitely not as much noise as you're looking for.

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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Not bad for your first try. The real test is how much is left after ya catch 1 on it. Lottsa super glue and uni big fly thread!

Posted on: 2012/3/5 23:59
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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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i'd loose the EP fibers (or whatever synthetic that is on the top)

also try to leave your bucktail a bit more open
when tying in reverse, don't bind the material... just build a thread dam that carries back just to get the hair at 45*

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Re: Skunked on Muskies Again (Despite Good Conditions)

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Oh I glued the mess outta that thing.

Ramcatt why would you loose the synthetic. It's not EP but psuedo marabou. Light, sheds water well and moves well. I know some musky guys tie entire flies out of EP.

Reasoning?

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