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Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Obviously, there is still time to catch them despite the cold water temps. They were out in the open and not "holed up" on the Cocalico Ck between Akron and Rothsville this week and dwelling in fairly fast water at the riffle-pool interfaces. Very nice size there too.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 20:44


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Fall Fish are definitely a fun fish. If I'm not at school, I'll be out on the connie searching for a monster Chubasaurus this winter! It's actually kind of funny. Back about 8 or so years ago when I was around 7, I would catch fall fish and I would think they were relatives to trout. I legitimately called them "Silver Trout". But one day, my old fishing buddy's dad told me it was just a chub. Ruined my life. lol anyways, this so called Rubber-Bugger, is it not made with a saddle hackle and just has rubber legs or both?

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I totally disagree with all of this chub loving, when I have a fish on the line and then find out it's a chub, I'm really bummed out. I'm expecting a beautiful trout and what I bring to hand is a ugly horney headed croaking pathetic fish. I then proceed to curse at it while I release it.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:28


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I would have to agree with laszlo on this one. While fall fish can be fun, they are really disappointing when fishing for trout. Case in point: I was fishing the Little Juniata during the sulphur hatch this spring and spotted a steady riser on the far bank. I was fishing the long slow pool right at the gorge parking lot (the fish in the lower end of this pool never come easy to me). After airing out a nice, long cast and getting a good drift, the fish eats. I was thoroughly disappointed when what was one of nicest dry fly presentations of my fly fishing career resulted in not a nice brown but the lowly fall fish instead.

None the less they can be an entertaining warm water target. Nice video and thanks for sharing.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:43


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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There is a fly called the Holschlag hackle fly that is basically a wooly bugger with rubber legs and dumbbell eyes (tied Clouser style). Google it and you can get some images of it. Fishidiot brought it to my attention a year or so ago. I tied some up and have caught trout, LMB, SMB, carp, redbreast sunfish and probably some other species. I don't ever remember actually catching a fallfish on one but I know they would work on the "mighty chub". Here is how I tie them.

Hook - #8 2 or 3 XL nymph hook
Thread - brown 6/0
Eyes - small red dumbell eyes (Clouser style)
Tail - brown marabou (I use pheasant marabou)
Body - brown chenille
Hackle - brown saddle hackle
Legs - yellow rubber legs tied in segments through body

You can add lead wire behind eyes for additional weight if desired.

It's a pretty good all around pattern for a number of situations.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:44


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Embrace the chub!

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For the chub/fallfish haters - think of the babies as serving as potential food for the trouts. Enough of them might push a 29" brown over the hump to 30"... I share the feeling of disappointment at times, when I hook into a nice fish on a small stream, I catch enough of a glimpse of it to think it is a trout, and then I end up with a horny nosed chub staring back at me. And other times, they don't bother me so much. It's really only when my expectation is that what I hooked is a trout and it isn't that I'm disappointed. I'm sure if I targeted them, it would be a fun pursuit. But I've never managed to diversify beyond trout.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:56


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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laszlo wrote:
I totally disagree with all of this chub loving, when I have a fish on the line and then find out it's a chub, I'm really bummed out. I'm expecting a beautiful trout and what I bring to hand is a ugly horney headed croaking pathetic fish. I then proceed to curse at it while I release it.


There is plenty of room on this forum to engage in many "beautiful trout" threads. Most of my time is spent in this mode as well. I feel there is also a great opportunity for flyfishermen to engage and share experiences fishing for some of the species of fish in PA that don't get much respect ...... like the mighty fallfish.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:58


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Whats the difference between the fall fish and the creek chub? How do you identify?


They're both members of the Minnow family. Fallfish grow to be much larger than Creek Chubs...If you have a fish over 10" or so, it's much more likely it's a Fallfish than Creek Chub. Fallfish in general have a more scaly appearance and a bright, flashy silver color. Creek Chubs usually have a dull black stripe down their side and don't have the flashy, reflective appearance. You can find them in the same streams, but generally Fallfish are found in faster, more Trout like lies where Creek Chubs are usually trying to avoid the current.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 22:00


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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I agree they're not the prettiest fish out there, but when I want beauty I'll fish for little freestone Brookies and Browns. When I want to feel some tug and get walked up and down a run or pool a couple times...the Fallfish will out pull the Trout of equal mass any day.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 22:05


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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This topic has me looking through my fishporn collection for my best chub "hero" photos. Here's one that slammed a Miyawaki Beach Popper. This pattern is designed specifically for searun cutthroat trout in Puget Sound. Chubs like em too.

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Posted on: 2013/11/7 22:13


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Here's one from the famous Chub Pool below Middle Dam on the Rapid River in Maine. It took a size 16 soft hackle. The locals were horrified that we took photos. Embrace the chub!

ps. I'm not making this up. It really is called the Chub Pool...

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Posted on: 2013/11/7 22:26


Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Flyfish1998, Check the fly tying forum for the rubber legs thread. Dc410, The Holsclag Hackle fly is a first rate bass fly, I tie mine to large for a good mega chub fly. If you want to go that route, I suggest putting rubber legs on a Clouser Darter. If I was more energetic I would post some pictures of the pattern. I like brown or olive. I have also had good luck with chartreause. Whatever for the body Diamond braid is kind of cool. Pair of rubber legs behind dumbells and calf tail wing w/ a little flash. You get the picture. Deadly. Smaller, slimmer profile that the Hackle fly. Better Low clear water fly for bass than the Hackle fly. Slower drop on the hop.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Silver trout they are man. With that said it's fun to go ugly. In college we would have called it going Chubbing.
Interesting side note. I was fishing for fallfish when I caught my first trout on a dry fly of my own design. I was 12. We haven't discussed it here yet but, Fallfish are excellent surface feeders and however you catch them they do take some skill to catch.
No Shame in being a Chubber.



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Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Yes, Embrace the Chub. I like it. That's a shirt. Great pic. Alot of poop? Bigger the chub, bigger the poop. Baritone voice.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 22:36
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Re: Fallfish are always fun

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Here's a Penns Creek Beauty from the first or second PAFF Jamboree in 2001? Caught in the same pool, with the same fly as the brown trout in the Fly Fishing Jamboree photo album.

For some strange reason Dave K. omitted the chub photo but kept the trout pic when he moved the old Jamboree photos from the old PAFF site to the new one several years back. The chub is definitely a prettier fish.

Embrace the chub.

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