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Re: Carp!

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The carp fishing adventures that i remember most were with a buddy on the Raystown , it was sight fishing for shoreline cruisers and it was a blast. He'd pull into an eddy and we'd just sit a moment and let things quiet down and before long there would be fish moving/cruising slowly along shore and beleive me when i say , dryflies , yep dryflies , cast in front of them (a black foam ant or beetle in size 10) would almost always bring a reaction. I hesitate to use the word strike 'cause believe it or not most of the time it was a sip. They would rush up but before they took they would have a good look and most of the time they would just sip it in like a brown trout does when it's midging or like a bluegill does. When hooked they would head straight for the bottom , which at the Raystown is waaaaaay down there. It was a blast and i'd suggest anyone try it , there are inlets by the hundreds like this at the lake and each one has it's own personality but they almost all have a population of carp. Sight fishing for these must be pretty close to fishing for redfish , no offense to redfishers.

Posted on: 2010/4/12 8:31


Re: Carp!

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Osprey,

I've fished for Redfish and agree with you and by no means should there be any offense taken. In fact, Redfish are easier to catch IMO but that's just one mans opinion. I think that one of the things that attracted me to this dark side of the flyfishing realm is the fact that I believe that if one can get fairly good and consistant at presenting the fly, hooking and landing Carp the better off that same person would be while fishing some tidal flat for feeding Redfish or any sight fishing where carefull and accurate casting is the norm. I am planning a kayak trip up to Presque Isle to try some true shallow water carp casting in the next few weeks, anyone else want to give it a try?

JA

Posted on: 2010/4/12 9:21


Re: Carp!

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Wingshot,

I fish Chartiers often as it is practically my back yard. A few thoughts. If you have not yet read "Carp on the Fly", I highly recommend it! Yes Carp are spooky and finicky, but the biggest lesson I learned was understanding Carp behavior. Being able to know the difference between cruising, clooping, and feeding.

As generic as it sounds, I have found my very best luck on CT with anything black and weighted. I tie a modified wooly bugger in all black with rubber legs added. I also add dumbell eyes so it rides hook point up. More important than pattern is Stealth, especially as the water levels start to come down towards the summer and the clarity goes up. I fish there often. If you are looking for someone to throw a few lines, drop me a message. I go sometimes after work when I have a few hours before dark. Usually hook into some nice smallies and cats along the way. Brown lining at its finest!

Lee

Posted on: 2010/4/12 16:57
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Re: Carp!

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Im happy to see there are more people who like to carp fish. I personaly think they are as great a challenge to land using a fly rod and fly than a three year old native Bow with lock jaw. I usualy start about now and I caught a juvenile yesterday using a simple streamer, crawling across a pond bottom. Stream/river fishing for them will make you a better fisherman and when bass turn off in the summer,we target carp . I think when you hook into a twenty pound freight train you'll understand. Good carpin and youl need backer,backer,backer!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on: 2010/4/12 17:23
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Re: Carp!

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I took my daughter and niece bass fishing on Sat. We were using a spinning rod and throwing weighted streamers and buggers. We were catching bass when a koi came close to the bank. I told my niece, I will give you $5 bucks if you can catch that one. Well the bet was on! She kept throwing near it but it would not strike. The girls were having fun picking out streamers. I then suggested the olive bugger with a krystal orange egg. Well a few casts later he sucked it in. I yelled set the hook. She did and almost broke the rod. I was so excited, probably more than she was. Surprisingly it did not fight as much as I had anticipated and we landed it! I estimate it went 6-7 lbs. Anyway she was smiling ear to ear and I was as happy as can be. I told her it was bigger than any fish her brother ever caught with me and I could tell she was pretty proud!That was the best $5 dollars I ever lost in a bet.

Posted on: 2010/4/13 9:28


Re: Carp!

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Wingshot,

I fish Chartiers often as it is practically my back yard. A few thoughts. If you have not yet read "Carp on the Fly", I highly recommend it! Yes Carp are spooky and finicky, but the biggest lesson I learned was understanding Carp behavior. Being able to know the difference between cruising, clooping, and feeding.

As generic as it sounds, I have found my very best luck on CT with anything black and weighted. I tie a modified wooly bugger in all black with rubber legs added. I also add dumbell eyes so it rides hook point up. More important than pattern is Stealth, especially as the water levels start to come down towards the summer and the clarity goes up. I fish there often. If you are looking for someone to throw a few lines, drop me a message. I go sometimes after work when I have a few hours before dark. Usually hook into some nice smallies and cats along the way. Brown lining at its finest!

Lee


Lee,

I have in fact read Barry's book as well as the "Pike on the fly" books and agree with you that there is some very important info to be had regarding Carp behavior. I will take you up on your generous offer and PM you to get some time in the near future to fish with you. It is not surprising that fly design and presentation become a key focus as one spends more and more time targeting these fish, as the fly you describe is almost exactly what I have been playing around with at the vice. I was not aware however that there are smallies to be had on CT! That is great news to me and I look forward to getting some time on the water with you.

Jeff

Posted on: 2010/4/14 8:09


Re: Carp!

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Jeff,

Absolutely. Here are is a bit of fish porn from the Creek. Long live brown lining.

Lee

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Re: Carp!

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Lee,

I'm almost speechless as I look at those pic's! Check your PM box.

Jeff

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Re: Carp!

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LONG LIVE BROWN LINING

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Re: Carp!

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Frederick............i've seen you use the term "brownlining" i gotta admit ignorance , never heard that before , what does it mean , fishing for anything other that the "holy trout"?

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Re: Carp!

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Ever look at a map for the blue lines of creeks and streams to go fishing for a "proper" species?

Brown lining implies they're the forgotten, innercity, waterways that mostly hold "trash" fish anymore. Looking for the brown lines as it were...

Posted on: 2010/4/21 21:39
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Re: Carp!

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I read a good story on carp fishing in a new paper out called susquehanna fishing they recomened using dried eel skin for flys do to the smell.

Posted on: 2010/5/5 8:16


Re: Carp!

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Quote:

gfen wrote:
Ever look at a map for the blue lines of creeks and streams to go fishing for a "proper" species?

Brown lining implies they're the forgotten, innercity, waterways that mostly hold "trash" fish anymore. Looking for the brown lines as it were...



Osprey

Basically its fishing for what most trout snobs consider trash fish in urban areas.

Posted on: 2010/5/5 23:01
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