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Re: really tricky brookie

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I did it with success a bunch of times as a kid, believe it or not.

Posted on: 2009/8/2 21:19


Re: really tricky brookie

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Do not move the log. That log is the reason the large brookie is there.

As already suggested: Sell the 1 weight and get a 4 wt or 5 wt.

Go out after a good rain. Stay low and fish a bushy dry downstream. Don't worry about a "perfect" drift. Movement and skating etc. often provokes violent strikes.

Posted on: 2009/8/2 21:26


Re: really tricky brookie

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Thanks Jay. Like I said, eventually everyone will start agreeing with me.


I really doubt it.

Posted on: 2009/8/3 6:37
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Re: really tricky brookie

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Try throwing rocks at him to get him to move


A fishing friend of mine told me a story using a "spook" technique.


Fishing for steelhead he saw a LARGE undercut rock wall. He figured it went about 10 feet back. There was a large riffle slightly upstream of this. He found a large branch, stuck it in the back of the undercut, and shook it all the way up. He saw upwards of 30 steelhead come out from underneath there into the riffle. He and his 2 buddies continued to catch fish in the ripple for the next 20-30 minutes, figured the fish went back underneath, which they did, and used his technique again. He said it worked to a charm and got a small boy to catch his first steelhead by him putting the fish in the faster moving water. I have done this by walking through a hole to put fish in the riffles before and had success, or thowing rocks to scare fish out of areas I can't get to them and coming back soon after to fish where they were then laying.

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Re: really tricky brookie

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I use a spook technique on Spring sometimes. At certain riffles the fish will be reluctant to swim past. So I will walk through a lower pool and then position myself is a fishing position for the small riffle. I usually take a couple practice drifts to see how my fly reacts to the water and hat I need to do to get the best drift. Then within 5 minutes the fish start feeding again and I usually catch some.

Discovered this on accident a few years back.

I think this can only happen on streams that have large fish populations and where fish see people a lot.

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Re: really tricky brookie

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Maybe you were never meant to catch this guy, perhaps it's there for looking and enjoying. There are a bunch of techniques that can be used, I like getting above and letting slack line run down to him, maybe throw a San Juan on to catch his attention. Then if you get him to the net, let him go and enjoy watching him there the next time you hit the stream.

Posted on: 2009/8/4 18:27
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Re: really tricky brookie

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Do not move the log. That log is the reason the large brookie is there.




I was kidding about moving the log. . .

Let us know if you get em though.

Posted on: 2009/8/5 12:42


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Spyder20oz wrote:
Try throwing rocks at him to get him to move


A fishing friend of mine told me a story using a "spook" technique.


Fishing for steelhead he saw a LARGE undercut rock wall. He figured it went about 10 feet back. There was a large riffle slightly upstream of this. He found a large branch, stuck it in the back of the undercut, and shook it all the way up. He saw upwards of 30 steelhead come out from underneath there into the riffle. He and his 2 buddies continued to catch fish in the ripple for the next 20-30 minutes, figured the fish went back underneath, which they did, and used his technique again. He said it worked to a charm and got a small boy to catch his first steelhead by him putting the fish in the faster moving water. I have done this by walking through a hole to put fish in the riffles before and had success, or thowing rocks to scare fish out of areas I can't get to them and coming back soon after to fish where they were then laying.


We call that "herding" 'round these parts.

Posted on: 2009/8/6 1:03
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Re: really tricky brookie

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Spyder20oz wrote:
Try throwing rocks at him to get him to move


A fishing friend of mine told me a story using a "spook" technique.


Fishing for steelhead he saw a LARGE undercut rock wall. He figured it went about 10 feet back. There was a large riffle slightly upstream of this. He found a large branch, stuck it in the back of the undercut, and shook it all the way up. He saw upwards of 30 steelhead come out from underneath there into the riffle. He and his 2 buddies continued to catch fish in the ripple for the next 20-30 minutes, figured the fish went back underneath, which they did, and used his technique again. He said it worked to a charm and got a small boy to catch his first steelhead by him putting the fish in the faster moving water. I have done this by walking through a hole to put fish in the riffles before and had success, or thowing rocks to scare fish out of areas I can't get to them and coming back soon after to fish where they were then laying.


Never thought about doing it in Pa, but I know it is specifically illegal to disturb fish from undercuts or brush piles in NY. I've seen people get popped for it.

Boyer

Posted on: 2009/8/6 11:39


Re: really tricky brookie

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If they were able to wade into the cover and spook them out with a stick into a riffle, I would imagine they were actually lining the fish as much as catching them as steel will surely get tight lipped and not turn-on after being spooked out into the open. Theres a reason they were hiding under there.
I'm not throwing accusations out there as I didnt realize what lining is about in my first trips when I did it and I'm sure I still do it today even on some fish I cant see and still catch.
Too many with the hooks on the outside of the mouth not to be lined fish.
Still fun, but not really rewarding.

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fish 1/2 hr before sunrise or 1/2 hr after sunset with a #12 royal wulff .........hhhhhhmmmmmm

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