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Heavier line in tight streams ??

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Hi all, wondering ... On a tight stream that requires alot of roll and etc compact casts, would it be advantageous to use a 5wt line on my 4wt 8' rod ? thanks .

Posted on: 2009/12/8 23:05


Re: Heavier line in tight streams ??

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IMO, yes.

Load the rod faster with less line out, throw tighter loops, etc.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 23:10


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I agree with Jay. That type of stream is pretty much all I fish, and I load my 2/3 with 4WT line and it works great.

Boyer

Posted on: 2009/12/9 1:36


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Springer........Before i'd invest in another line i'd do some experimenting with your leader set up , you can compensate for alot with some relativly minor leader adjustments , easier , cheaper , experimenting is fun HAVE FUN!!!

Posted on: 2009/12/9 5:58


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Yes. Rod weights are determined by the weight of line that properly loads it at a certain distance (30 feet?). If the majority of your casts are under that distance, then using, for example, a 4 wt line on a 4 wt rod is actually underlining it, and the proper load on that rod may be a 5 wt or even a 6wt line.

Personally, I do a lot of brookie fishing. My main brookie/tight brush rod is a 7 1/2 ft. 4/5 wt and I throw a 6 wt line.

Osprey is right too, leader adjustments also make a big difference.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 8:23


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Thanks for the guidance all ! I have a 5 wt line that I'm going to try.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 10:47


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I fish a 5wt rio SA nymph line(heavy front taper) on my 7' 3wt for short casts and is seems to work very well.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 10:55


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Great tip! I noticed my 4 wt has trouble loading when I fish a short line on small streams, but I enjoy casting it more the few times I actually use it on larger streams or open areas. I never knew that this was the answer though. Thanks!

Posted on: 2009/12/9 17:40


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what is the rod flex ? tip , mid , full ....?

Posted on: 2009/12/9 18:29


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One note of caution, while overlining may allow you to load up a rod quicker for short casts, you will sacrifice some delicacy in presentation. The leader modifications may make more sence for this reason.

Posted on: 2009/12/10 14:18


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It depends on the stream, but for the most part, PA's little mountain brookie streams don't require much in the way of delicacy. Stealth, yes, but rarely delicacy.

Posted on: 2009/12/10 17:27


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Honestly , i hate to repeat , but , unless you are independently wealthy and money is not an issue for you , before you shell out , what $50 anyhow for a new line , experiment with your casting technique and your leader set up , you have a wide range of compensation/adaptation , things you can make up for , with just minor changes in casting and leader. Learning as you go along is a big chunk of the overall fun of it. HAVE FUN!!!!

Posted on: 2009/12/12 7:18


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osprey wrote:
....experiment with your casting technique and your leader set up , you have a wide range of compensation/adaptation , things you can make up for , with just minor changes in casting and leader. Learning as you go along is a big chunk of the overall fun of it. HAVE FUN!!!!



No doubt this is true, and fun to mess around with this stuff. Give it a try.

Posted on: 2009/12/12 7:52


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if you are talking really small streams-K-mart,Walmart other low end places would have usable lines.

Posted on: 2009/12/12 15:51
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no matter , what leader , or line or casting ability , some rods don't cast well in tight areas , there are rods made for specific situations , its in the flex of the rod , how much of a back cast it takes to load it properly , yes tapered leaders will work better etc , but most of it i think is in the rod flex

Posted on: 2009/12/12 19:42



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