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Re: Early Season BWO's

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Do you have more of a problem with drag?


Good question but I would assume if you watch the bigger fly for drag the smaller should follow. BMarx, yes?

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:10


Re: Early Season BWO's

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csoult,
Not really, if your dropper is two short you might, but if you mend the lead fly, the dropper will follow and it should be fine. Sometimes the extra slack between the lead fly and the dropper gives the dropper that much extra drift. Mending is key not matter if you are fishing 1 dry or 2.

It certainly doesn't work ALL the time, but it also has very useful applications, especially with emergers and like i said the ever frustrating multihatch (typically sulphers and olives or that sort of thing)

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:11


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fox,

generally yes.

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I could see where this could be an advantage as I ran into a situation where sulphur duns and spinners were everywhere. Come to think of it I could only keep track of one fly that night. But I will try this for sure.

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Yeah you can't always see both flies, but when you can see one, you have an idea where the other SHOULD be, and sometimes if the fish takes the second dry, the first goes under or stops just like an indicator. give it a whirl and let us know.just don't yell at me when you snap off two flies instead of one

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:17


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How many times have you had 2 fish on? I think that would be ultra exciting!

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:25


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rarely because when im fishing two dries i am typically targeting one larger fish. I don't blind cast, although that might work too and big fish don't typically let smaller fish that close. i've done it nymphing though but it isn't that wild.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:29


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Got it. Where I want to try it with the GN and BWO, the fish rise in pods. I would think it could happen there but I see your point on bigger water.

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:31


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I don't usually target big fish. I'm out to catch fish, and if they happen to be big, great.

I do use a dry-dropper a lot. And while I've never thought of it as 2 dries, I guess it's the same idea. I do it on small streams a lot, often with a beadhead or something similar, and that's the classic dry-deep nymph, not much different than an indicator rig. But you really can't fish a "deep" nymph that way on a larger stream, it just pulls under the dry. So the dry-dropper rig on a large stream usually has an emerger, or a light nymph in the film, as the dropper. I guess that's the same idea as 2 dries.

I have caught 2 fish before, both on dry droppers, and on 2 nymph rigs. Usually it doesn't happen that 2 fish take at the same time. It's that the 2nd takes while your fighting the 1st. You've probably seen where, when fighting a fish, another fish follows it around? Well, if in the act of doing so, there's another fly dangling back there, they sometimes take!

Had a buddy once who had it happen with steelhead. He had an egg pattern and a stonefly nymph. One fish took the egg. During the fight, another was chasing the stone all around, lol. He landed neither, whole rig broke off, but the fish remained connected to one another for a few minutes and you could see them fighting each other!

Posted on: 2012/2/10 15:50


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I've done dry dropper many times but have just never tried two dries. I've also used two streamers before but with little luck.

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I very often fish a second dry when I'm fishing a spinner pattern that's hard to see. I'll fish a sulpher dun with a sulpher spinner or a parachute ant with a trico spinner.

I have not yet fished a tandem for BWOs, but I got a lot of ideas for that from this thread.

Posted on: 2012/2/11 11:23
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One thing I intend to try this summer is a sunken trico spinner off a dry dropper. Probably an ant but TBD.


That should work well, but if not, try the sunken trico spinner fished deep like a nymph, especially at the heads of pools where the dead spinners have been forced under by the current. I caught my biggest brown of the year that way.

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Not to derail your thread but I've generally had more luck on sunken tricos fished deep than as a dropper rig. And done well from first light until 2pm or so with them. Last year I did more sunken trico fishing than trico dry fly fishing. If I catch up with you this summer I'll share another trico pattern with you.


As far as emerging BWO droppers anyone every try a yellow bodied fly. I've read they don't turn olive brown until they are exposed to the air and light for a few minutes.

Posted on: 2012/2/12 0:21
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Re: Early Season BWO's

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Thanks to both of you for the info and ideas on sunken tricos. Don't worry about rerailing my thread since I seem to have done it to myself. LOL

Posted on: 2012/2/12 8:16


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1 more tid bit on tricos they are not black errrrrr I should say their body color darkens as the season progresses. I actually think it is a combination of sun light and possible sub species but no one else will believe that. But then again others swear tricos are never a size bigger nor smaller than a size 24. That may be true as well but fish eat size 20 imitations with no problem.

Anyway a BWO color early season trico works and a mahogany brown tears em up in August and everything in the color spectrum in between during mid summer.

Posted on: 2012/2/12 11:23
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