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Re: Would you pay to fish a PA trout stream?
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littlejuniata wrote:

the forum is horribly biased

by the forum lords (TWO)

who are running the show



LJ, who are you talking about here? Are you so cowardly that you can't be direct in your accusations or insinuations? You know how to send PMs and how to communicate clearly when you want to, but you'd rather be "sly" (really, "underhanded") with your criticisms. Just because not a single person agrees with you doesn't mean the forum is biased or that agreement with you is being suppressed in some way. It just means that your ideas are not thought to have much merit by nearly everyone posting here.

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:10
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I offered you evidence were you too cowardly to accept it

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:12
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Re: Would you pay to fish a PA trout stream?

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littlejuniata wrote:
OK lets put the following on a ballot


Do you believe the landowner has a right to profit from access to his property?

the no's would be .00000000000000000000000000000001

I prefer

ROFLMAO




Wrong again.

Based on the number of people on this planet, if just one voted yes, the percentage would be higher than that. You are bound to get some just by mistake. Even still, I'd vote yes. Most certainly yes. As would a lot of land owner's. Even some land non-owners would say yes.

You just aren't making any sense. Maybe it's because you are spending too much time on the floor.

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:15
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pcray it is centralized but the transaction is between you and the landowner

the price changing argument is not worth answering

It is in the best interest of the landowner to mange his stream for maximum profit, no different than his fields

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I would like to go fishing today.

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what is funny is that I agreed to pay 5 bucks to fish the Little "J"
I mostly fish the gorge area, so my 5 bucks would go to protect your streams

and I am the bad guy

ROFLMAO

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:20
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pcray it is centralized but the transaction is between you and the landowner


So its like an ebay style system, with each individual landowner selling permits for their land? We have to remember that most streams are highly segmented, many different landowners, and each one may only own a few hundred yards. If there is no centralized agency recieving money and then divying it up, that means you are not buying permits for a stream, but for a given stretch.

Ok, so what happens when I buy a permit for a 200 yard stretch of Spring Creek? I drive 2 hours to get there, and find out the landowner sold 30 permits for that day, and I'm not allowed to fish anywhere else on Spring Creek, nor am I allowed to go to a different stream. Unfortunately, I didn't bring my home computer along, and I wouldn't have internet access anyway.

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if the landowner sold 30 permits for a 200 yard stretch he would be self destructing

now make some sense


THEN the landowner would also be able to issue permits from his home


now are you going to say

what if he isn't home

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:25
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Re: Would you pay to fish a PA trout stream?
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Many of the problems being pointed out against LJ system can be solved with a cap and trade system. "I'll give you two days on Spring Creek for one on Penns and an option for 2 days on Tipton Run during the Green Drake hatch."

ROFSFST&PPLMAO

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what is funny is that I agreed to pay 5 bucks to fish the Little "J"

and I am the bad guy


You are not the bad guy, and the landowner has the right to profit for access if they so choose. You're just trying to create a state-wide system which fits your limited circumstance, without accounting for all of the difficulties that come with different circumstances.

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I don't give a rats who solves it just solve it

don't let SRC run us out of oir sport

call it jacks idea who gives a

pcray I am open to any and all solutions

you can start now

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:28
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Re: Would you pay to fish a PA trout stream?

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Is this thread even worth reading anymore?

LJ,

Iam not a cheapskate, iam not the bad guy either and yes i disagree with virtually everything you have said.

Carry on

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:30
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if the landowner sold 30 permits for a 200 yard stretch he would be self destructing


Not on famous waters. He can make a heck of a living off of unknowledgable out of towners who don't know any better. 30 might be an exaggeration. But in a 200 yard stretch 3 might be too many for me.

Most of the time when I go fishing, I don't have a predetermined place that I'm going. Plan A might be a stream, and I'll search it for the conditions and crowds I'm looking for. If that doesn't work out, I'll have a plan B, which could be a totally different stretch or else another stream altogether.

So should I buy 4 or 5 permits ahead of time just to hedge my bets? Or do I need to get much more specific on exactly where I plan to fish, and have no leeway to play it by ear once I'm on the stream?

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yes you are a cheapskate,, and you are not a landowner so your vote has little sway

Posted on: 2010/2/25 10:33
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Re: Would you pay to fish a PA trout stream?

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Ah ok then if thats how you are going to play.

You sir are a lunatic and your vote has little say because you frankly are no one

BTW i voted yes LJ.

Guess you are wrong again.

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