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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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So do I but the best was always moving water for me. I love rivers and streams. The kids should enjoy the trout wether they're in ponds lakes or streams. That's my point;the youth deserve to have a good stream experience like I did growing up not just catching little bluegills. I'm not knocking gills I fish for them often.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 15:50
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I fished for bluegills in a pond when I was a kid and loved it. I still do.

You seem to be assuming that pond fishing bluegills is inferior to any sort of trout fishing, including the opening day type of fishing, where people are packed in, fishing for stocked trout.

No way. I would much rather fish a good bluegill pond than fish that way. And I thought so as a kid, too.

Particularly for young kids, fishing on a good bluegill pond or lake is the best way to introduce them to fishing. It's fantastic fun. I'm thankful that my parents introduced me to fishing that way.

If my earliest exposure as young kid had been the crowded type of opening day fishing, I might not have got interested in fishing.

I did a lot of fishing for bluegills from when I was very young, then started bass fishing in those ponds. The first time I went trout fishing, I was about 12 or 13 and it was doing that opening day fishing on a crowded stream. I didn't enjoy it. The people were so packed in that you couldn't get a place to fish the good pools. Some had camped overnight and roped off "their" area. There was trash all over the place. People were hooking each others lines continuously.

Some people have nostalgia for that type of fishing, and think of it as a "tradition" etc. That's putting lipstick on a pig, IMHO. It's a degraded form of fishing.

When you're fishing for bluegills in a pond, you're fishing for wild fish. And they are beautiful, colorful fish.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 19:22

Edited by troutbert on 2013/4/5 20:10:50


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I'm with troutbert 100%. My grandfather had pond full of BIG bluegill. I learned to fly-fish on that pond with poppers, and it was a lot of fun. The pond behind my parents house had wild pumpkinseeds in it. They were small, but as pretty as any fish you'll ever catch. There is nothing wrong with that kind of fishing.

I've actually never fished a stocked trout stream on opening day in my lifetime, although I've fished stockeds streams within the first 2-3 weeks quite a few times. Funny story: last year my dad landed a freshly stocked brown on Pine creek and he actually asked me what was wrong with it. Apparently he's used to seeing wild trout and thought it must be sick. I told him all the stocked fish look that way.

Those pale, beat-up trout that the PFBC stocks are not worth catching. I would rather foul-hook a sucker on an egg pattern than ever catch another freshly stocked trout in my lifetime. I don't like touching them.




Posted on: 2013/4/5 22:28


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Okay then we should stop stocking trout and stock panfish in ponds for the future anglers ? And I wasnt talking about introducing children to fishing I'm talking about kids stepping up to a higher level. Like I said I enjoy panfish too but they dont hold a candle to trout or smallmouth bass from moving water IMO. look how many people travel so far and spend so much money to fish for trout and bass. Not many do so for bluegills. So I'm pretty sure I'm not in the minority on this.

Posted on: 2013/4/6 8:01

Edited by ratgunner on 2013/4/6 8:16:12
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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Quote:

I'm talking about kids stepping up to a higher level.


Higher level = wild trout.



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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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ratgunner wrote:
Okay then we should stop stocking trout and stock panfish in ponds for the future anglers ?


As I said earlier in this thread, I don't favor ending stocking trout. I favor ending stocking over wild trout.

Regarding stocking panfish in ponds. Most ponds and lakes have had panfish introduced soon after the pond was built, and they have continued to reproduce and maintain their populations. There is no need for further stocking once they are established.

The PFBC and DCNR and county parks people etc. should make an effort to maintain and improve panfish opportunities throughout the state. That's great recreation for both young people and adults. And good panfishing opportunities will get more kids started in fishing than any other type of fishing.

Posted on: 2013/4/6 9:02

Edited by troutbert on 2013/4/6 9:22:17


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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They would need to be restocked if everyone who trout fishes had to fish for gills and kept them to eat. That could be a good thing for most ponds are overpopulated and only have stunted fish.

Posted on: 2013/4/6 9:07
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Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I am rather thankful for the stocking program. The waters within 30 minutes of my house do not hold but very, very small stocks of wild fish. They could never handle real angling pressure - essentially no trout fishing without a sizable commute.


Posted on: 2013/4/6 10:39


Re: NO MORE STOCKING!!!!!

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I agree and I think the PF&BC is doing a good job. There's always room for improvement though.

Posted on: 2013/4/6 10:58
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