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holdover trout in pa lakes?

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its summer now as most of you know and in the stocked streams most fish are gone but some holdover and maybe spawn but whats the case in stocked ponds or lakes can trout holdover and spawn there too or are all stocked ponds and lakes just put and take?

Posted on: 2013/7/1 22:41


Re: holdover trout in pa lakes?

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There are still plenty of wild trout streams that have good fishing year round. But if you are determined to fish for stockies, lakes can hold fish if they stay cold enough. I would recommend checking water temps where ever you plan on fishing. Personally I mostly target wild trout.

Posted on: 2013/7/1 23:23


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Lakes and ponds will hold stockies for a while after stocking if they are fed with cold water by springs or a cold stream, or if they have a thermocline. But it is unlikely that they'll spawn in a lake, trout need to spawn in running water. Now if there is a cold stream feeding a pond or lake they could spawn at the inflow. Or if there are shallow water springs they may spawn over those.
They are stocked trout and I seriously doubt they have they will last until spawning season whereever they are stocked. If they do they are seldom successfull.

About .1% of trout that are stocked ever make it to spawning season, of those about .1% spawn successfully.

I fish some reservoirs and ponds that hold wild brookies and they all have cold streams feeding them, during the fall the brookies move up to the streams to spawn and drop back to the lakes to winter over.
Keep all the stockies you catch, that's what they are there for.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 7:49
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It's time to stop stocking all wild trout streams no matter what Classification they are, and time to eradicate brown trout in some of our limestone streams and re-establish brookies in them.


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to add to Chaz's comments - mid summer the thermocline will be typically 25-35ft down.

you need weighted flies and slow sinking line - so you can count down until you find the right depth. buggers and leeches work best 'down below'.

its not that fun fishing imho, i'd rather fish top water poppers and sliders for bass and blue gills. from a float tube they are a blast.


Posted on: 2013/7/2 8:03
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Keep all the stockies you catch, that's what they are there for.


You're still only allowed to keep five a day and three a day after Labor Day.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 8:18


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kenbo5733 wrote:
its summer now as most of you know and in the stocked streams most fish are gone but some holdover and maybe spawn but whats the case in stocked ponds or lakes can trout holdover and spawn there too or are all stocked ponds and lakes just put and take?


This year has been actually pretty good fo fish survival. Most of the heavily stocked streams should have decent fishable numbers of trout remaining.

As for lakes, temperatures is key just as it is in streams. If the lakes are deep enough, the depths will have cold enough water to hold over trout. The only problem is getting at them with fly gear. if they are 20 feet down, it might not be much fun to try to fish for them with FF gear.

Kev

Posted on: 2013/7/2 8:23


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In NJ the lakes need a combination of temperature and oxygen. In many mesotropic lakes the bacteria eating up dead whatever that falls to the bottom can use up the oxygen at depths. The thermocline seals the colds water, but also isolates the surface water where wind mixes in oxygen. Successful trout holdover lakes are deep enough to have a thermocline and there must be oxygen below the thermocline (or be small, cold ponds fed by springs/cold streams). Two NJ reservoirs were stocked with lake trout. The lakers spawn in the lakes, one reservoir to such a degree that it hasn't been stocked for more than a decade. Oligotrophic lakes don't have this problem, but most NJ lakes are well fertilized and don't hold much oxygen at depth.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 8:34


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In NJ the lakes need a combination of temperature and oxygen. In many mesotropic lakes the bacteria eating up dead whatever that falls to the bottom can use up the oxygen at depths. The thermocline seals the colds water, but also isolates the surface water where wind mixes in oxygen. Successful trout holdover lakes are deep enough to have a thermocline and there must be oxygen below the thermocline (or be small, cold ponds fed by springs/cold streams). Two NJ reservoirs were stocked with lake trout. The lakers spawn in the lakes, one reservoir to such a degree that it hasn't been stocked for more than a decade. Oligotrophic lakes don't have this problem, but most NJ lakes are well fertilized and don't hold much oxygen at depth.


Pretty much the problem with reservoirs in PA, natural lakes and ponds are usually a better bet to have the needed oxygen, but I know at least a dozen reservoirs that hold trout all year.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 13:42


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If the lake will hold trout over by all means practice C&R its always nice to be able to catch them more than once.

I know a few lakes mostly in the NE part of the state that holdover trout from year to year. Upper Woods Pond is the first one to come to mind.

Posted on: 2013/7/2 15:58






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