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CDC Trico Comparadun

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I posted in the Fish N Chips thread about my CDC Trico Comparadun and said I’d post a picture later but then figured it would be better if I showed a step by step pictorial of the pattern.

Please remember I’m not the best tier and yours may look much nicer than mine but mine have worked for me. I’ll be showing my CDC female dun/spinner which uses two colors of thread. My male is tied exactly the same just use all black thread. Please feel free to PM me with any questions but hopefully this post gives you what you need if you wish to tie them.

Hook: Tiemco 100 size 24
Thread: 8/0 Olive abdomen and black thorax
Wing: 1 white CDC Puff
Tails: 2 white micro fibbets
Thorax: Fine black dubbing

I’ll type the steps in first and then show the pictures in sequence at the bottom.

Step 1: Tie in the olive thread

Step 2: Tie in CDC puff

Step 3: Secure puff back and front and begin to get in standing up

Step 4: Tie in and split tails

Step 5: Build up abdomen up to behind the wing. For the female I whip finish 2 turns behind the wing and cut off

Step 6: Tie in black thread behind the wing then dub thorax tight to the front of the wing and then whip finish

Step 7: Cut wing to length, two pictures here, 1 side view and 1 front view

The last two pictures show completed male and female flies.

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Posted on: 2013/6/25 18:10


Re: CDC Trico Comparadun

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Excellent work!

I can testify as to Fox's flies effectiveness - they just catch fish. Lots of fish.

It'd be great if you could do a deer hair comparadun tutorial (like a sz 16 BWO). You tie amazing comparaduns - stimmies too!

In the last pic, it looks like you used a Tiemco 101 hook - same hook as the 100, but ring eye (straight eye). I prefer these in under sz 20 dries for the better hook point access.

Sly as a fox, you are.

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In the last pic, it looks like you used a Tiemco 101 hook - same hook as the 100, but ring eye (straight eye). I prefer these in under sz 20 dries for the better hook point access.



Well technically it's an old mustad 94859 but bent the up eye to straight. Have to find some use for them!

Posted on: 2013/6/25 18:36


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It'd be great if you could do a deer hair comparadun tutorial (like a sz 16 BWO). You tie amazing comparaduns - stimmies too!



If people want to see it, while Old Lefty wows them with his casting at the Fish N Chips, I will hold a tutorial for both the BWO CD and my Stimmie. How's that?

Posted on: 2013/6/25 18:42


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Sammy would be proud of you.

I KNOW Don is. Speaking of which, maybe a phone call is in order to invite him. We've seen what happens when you put Old Lefty and Don together in the same place. What an epic learning opportunity that'd be!

I can't imagine giving the newbies a better gift....

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I KNOW Don is. Speaking of which, maybe a phone call is in order to invite him. We've seen what happens when you put Old Lefty and Don together in the same place. What an epic learning opportunity that'd be!

I can't imagine giving the newbies a better gift....


On it.

Posted on: 2013/6/25 19:07


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Foxgap
That is a very nice pattern and a great tutorial. I have used that nearly exact pattern and caught many really nice fish over the years. I also think that the CDC on a fly in this size range is superior in floatation and profile than a traditional deer hair comparadun.
It is a great pattern during the hatch and the early part of the spinnerfall (when both duns and spinners are on the water).

Here is another way to incorporate CDC into a trico pattern.
#22 Varivas2300 ultramidge hook
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Sometimes the selective big boys want something with a more natural profile, especially once the hatch has finished and there are only spinners on the water. This fly has taken my largest fish in multiple states during trico spinnerfalls.
It floats better and has a better profile than any synthetic can give.

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Sometimes the selective big boys want something with a more natural profile, especially once the hatch has finished and there are only spinners on the water. This fly has taken my largest fish in multiple states during trico spinnerfalls.
It floats better and has a better profile than any synthetic can give.


Thanks for this post. Strangely enough, I was thinking about tying some of these up tonight and now that I have a testamonial to their effectiveness, I will make it a point to do so. Question, do you clip the wing and then figure 8 or figure 8 and clip each side separately?

I'm not sure who PM'd me about this pattern last year but if it was you, many thanks. I love it.

Posted on: 2013/6/28 10:10


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Question, do you clip the wing and then figure 8 or figure 8 and clip each side separately?

Great question. It really depends on a few things - like when I'm tying them, how many I need, and what materials I have at hand.

To start the fly, I like white "tailing feathers" from Nature'sSpirit, 2 times the shank length and splayed.
Then, it depends upon the quality of the CDC, meaning the density of the fibers on the stem.
If I'm using the "top shelf" (I am currently biased to TroutHunter), I will use one feather and tie it in as if I was using a synthetic. Once I have the first figure8 in, I will slide the feather on the "far side" to the right length then bind it with another (tighter) figure8. The less wraps, the better.
Once the thorax is dubbed (Nature'sSpirit trico blend) and the head whipfinished, I cut the near side to the same length as the far side. I tend to leave them a bit on the long side, and trim them while fishing if necessary.
If I have a ton of time to tie (winter) and I'm just "restocking", I will tie each side in with a separate (and matched) feather. A pain in the ass, but it looks great. But, honestly, the fish don't seem to care which way I tie it in.
When I'm stuck with less than stellar CDC, I will either use 2 feathers (on the stem) and tie them in together (much more bulk in the thorax this way) or I'll strip multiple feathers while aligning the tips if possible) and get a proper amount of fibers, then tie the bunch in and cut the near side. This method tends to give a narrower wing, so more fibers are needed to achieve the same float quality and profile, but it adds bulk to the thorax which is not a good thing in a small fly. Tricos have a wider profile in the thorax area, but not that much. You can getaway with a little, but not a lot.
If I'm in a pinch and I run low on flies (usually happens to me on a multiday trip - I am a triconut), then I'll crank out a dozen in an hour by just skipping the tails and tying in one or two feathers across the shank. Once the fly is finished, I'll pull the wings straight up and cut them at the same time to the correct length - about one or one and a half the shank length.
I hope you understand all of my gibberish.

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Nice pattern and convo...
I tie a very similar pattern with snowshoe and it works well. It does bulk up the thorax quickly though...
CDC has regained its appeal since I started using Dry Magic so I'll have to give these a try.

Posted on: 2013/6/28 12:45


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I KNOW Don is. Speaking of which, maybe a phone call is in order to invite him. We've seen what happens when you put Old Lefty and Don together in the same place. What an epic learning opportunity that'd be!

I can't imagine giving the newbies a better gift....


On it.


I went to Don's trico seminar a while back...it was probably the most worthwhile presentation/seminar that I ever saw...

Posted on: 2013/6/28 12:48


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Well, here's my first try on the CDC spinner. What do you guys think?

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Posted on: 2013/6/28 17:07


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Well, here's my first try on the CDC spinner. What do you guys think?


It'll catch fish...Think I'm gonna have to try that...

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What do you guys think?

Proportions look great. Try to set the wings a little closer to the hook eye. And maybe build up the thorax with a fine layer of dubbing, or a few more thread wraps.

Posted on: 2013/6/28 21:12
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Al Miller's Trico (for Les..."Philadelphia Lawyer")

Simple to tie and very effective everywhere I've fish it. I seem to get less refusals with it than the heavily winged spinner patterns.


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