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Another day of fun on a wild brown stream.

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I had today off so I took off for a stream to settle a score on. I didn't get skunked today. 3 fish brought to hand, 3 hooked but came unbuttoned and I turned 3 others, one of which was big for the size of the stream. I even caught one on a dry fly. He didn't like my little streamer but he did my double humpy. One question I have for those of you who know something about trout streams. While fishing I kept seeing small piles of gravel mounds in the stream. What made them? The were about 18 inches across and 5-8 inches tall.
The head picture was a very brightly colored brown about 9 or 10 inches. Iam pretty sure he was not raised in a hatchery.

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Re: Another day of fun on a wild brown stream.

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Nice looking fish!

Posted on: 2011/7/8 18:58
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Stockie

Stockie

wild brown

pebble mounds are fall fish redds

Posted on: 2011/7/8 19:43
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Re: Another day of fun on a wild brown stream.

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I was wondering if the bigger ones were stockies. Their fins were not messed up though. This section of stream is up from a FFOCR and this section is CRAT. Would the stockies go the mile up to this section of stream? Intrestin about the fall fish redds as I have yet to catch one in this stream. There are some chubbs though.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 20:19


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Nice pics, sounds like a pretty good day.

The mounds could be Fallfish or Chubs...their redds look pretty similar. Fallfish redds tend to be bigger (since they are generally bigger), but they're both pebble mound builders. I've seen Fallfish redds four feet across and over a foot high. Since they spawn in the spring, often during periods of fairly high water, the mounds sometimes will become completely exposed during low summer flows. They're big enough to trip over if you're not watching!

Posted on: 2011/7/8 20:38


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Ok,
Thanks Swattie. I had not noticed the redds earlier as the water has been high until this week. It has been a wet spring/summer.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 21:25


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Not sure if any of your fish are wild, the angle of the reflections is such that the colors are washed out. As for the stone mounds in the stream, I doubt a fall fish or chubb made them as big as you say, however, I believe otters make mounds and they can be even larger if what I saw on Pine Creek is an indication of how big the mounds can be.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 21:31
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I could swear I see that smudge behind the eyes of those first two. You said some were darker and some were more faint.
No?

Posted on: 2011/7/8 21:49
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I noticed the eye spots too. Nice lookin fish either way.
Glad you got some redemption. I agree those mounds are redds. I've seen fallfish redds way bigger than you described.

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The first two have weak orange spotting and the fins are very opaque, not translucent. The second fish has a boogered pectoral fin too.

I see the appearance of an irridescent "smudge on at least the first fish but its more of a camera angle thing I think. The third fish has a huge spot. and the black spots are sharp.

The first two look very similar to the fish we raise after they've been in the water a few months.

NWPA, C&RFFO and C&RAT means stocked trout fisheries....certainly wild fish present in those watersheds. Could they move up a mile, certainly.

Just my opinion. Doesn't take anything away form the accomplishment. The second one looks longer than ten inches.

Posted on: 2011/7/8 22:11
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def stockie browns, but hey, july fish... they made it, unless died after today haha.

Posted on: 2011/7/9 3:05
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Thanks for the info guys. I had a hunch that the bigger ones were stockies. The little guy was a wild one. Un fortunatly he wouldn't sit still for a shot so I just took a quick one so I could get him back in the water. I don't like to stress them too much.
Thanks for the info Maurice.
I am going to start to take my good camera when I go tho these streams.

Posted on: 2011/7/9 8:34


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If the stream in question is in NWPA and hence in the Allegheny drainage, it puts the identification of the mounds as fallfish redds into question.

So far as I know, fallfish are found in the Susquehanna drainage and not over the hump to the west in the Allegheny watershed..

Posted on: 2011/7/9 10:30


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If its the stream I think it is, (i.e. the one he had fished before), it is a good wild brownie stream and not stocked, though it runs into a stocked stream (which also has its share of wild fish). RLeeP you know this stream well I believe.

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From what I understand RleeP you are familiar with this stream. It is a dandy some days....Others it is a walk with a flyrod. I found another pict of the wild brown I caught.

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